Hi all:

I have made a new cable 1:1 with only five conductors, 2,4,5, 11 and GND;
short circuited the DB-25 (pins 18 to 25) at the computer end, so all this
pins was grounded.
Checked and re-checked, continuity and 5 V on pins 10 and 20 of the chip.
The result was "Could not identify chip"
Then I unistalled the bascom demo and then re-installed: Same result.
Then I changed the LPT2 (278) to LPT1 (378) (also the software
configuration): Same result
I tried with 2 different chips (90S2313-10PC) and 2 resonators 10 MHz: Same
result.
(My PCB is a new DT006)
Any new idea will be strongly appreciated. I canīt sleep any more :-(
Thank you all!
Jorge Ferrero

Hi all, hi Don:

Finally my Bascom demo could identify the chip!!

The problem was: I used the new DT006, itīs a great PCB, but still there is
not enough information on the web page from Don (IMHO). In their page
(DT006AVR),
Don said referring  to J9:
 "In order to get all 8 LEDs to flash, all 8 links will need to be
installed, however as Data signals D5, D6, and D7 (the last 3 links) may
upset the programming signals, you will need to remove these 3 links" and
then: "Make sure you have links installed for the first 5 LED positions on
the J9 header pins. Leave D5,  D6, and D7 links out. These are the 3 links
nearest the Simm Socket position."
Well, in the programming phase, I had to remove the 8 links (not the last
three) in order to identify the chip.

Iīm going to sleep well this night...:-)

Thanks to all

Jorge Ferrero

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, "jferrero" <jferrero@u...> wrote:
> Well, in the programming phase, I had to remove the 8 links (not 
the last
> three) in order to identify the chip.
> 

That's odd -- I only need to remove three links (the three furthest 
from the AVR chip).

Tom

jferrero wrote:
> 
> Hi all, hi Don:
> 
> Finally my Bascom demo could identify the chip!!
> 
> The problem was: I used the new DT006, itīs a great PCB, but still there is
> not enough information on the web page from Don (IMHO). In their page
> (DT006AVR),
> Don said referring  to J9:
>  "In order to get all 8 LEDs to flash, all 8 links will need to be
> installed, however as Data signals D5, D6, and D7 (the last 3 links) may
> upset the programming signals, you will need to remove these 3 links" and
> then: "Make sure you have links installed for the first 5 LED positions on
> the J9 header pins. Leave D5,  D6, and D7 links out. These are the 3 links
> nearest the Simm Socket position."
> Well, in the programming phase, I had to remove the 8 links (not the last
> three) in order to identify the chip.
> 
> Iīm going to sleep well this night...:-)
> 
> Thanks to all
> 
> Jorge Ferrero

Not only not enough info Jorge, but new data.
i hadn't heard of the leds and resistors on the other 5 legs killing the
ability to read the ID byte.
I'll add this info to the page.
mind you, i knew the above would load the circuit, so i guess it's up to
the printer port drive characteristics. learning...learning....
Cheers Don...

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Mert Inceiplik wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure that I got it right...
> 
> Do you mean that I can *handle* a RS485 interface using a dt102?
> ie in software or what, or, do I have to use a *mother board* and add the
> dt102 as an *interface board*?

The 102 has a spot for the rs-485 type chip on board, as well as the LCD
and 84, but it isn't what i would call a good choice.

> Well, what I mean is: I'd like to build an interface between a RS485 device
> and a PC, ie. RS485<->RS232. If I can code the protocols (I hope it fits in
> 16F84) and *see* in on the LCD it'd be great!
> 
> Can I store the data some where, say a dt101's EEPROM?

I think what you really need is a hardware conversion board 232<>485 or
with the option of software control via a 508 or similar.

I think rs485.com is a good spot for info, another is R.E. Smith, not
sure of the web address translation, but he has virtually every known
method of doing the hardware handshaking possible all on one board. the
pdf's are there also.

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20-May-2000 
A new Button sensor LED flasher routine from Mick Gulovsen. 

Don:
Here is a new MIK designed test prog for the dt006.  If you like it I
will tidy up the source a bit for you to distribute. 
     
I know you are busy counting your money but if you can get a chance to
try it I think you will like it. 
Upon power up it goes through the `standard' led count at 1 sec
intervals but with the difference that once the leds are all alight it
then clears them one at a time, this will run continously if you let it. 

Press button 1 and a LED `race' (the RAVERs) will start and cycle 25
times (10 sec) and then return to the main cycle again. Press button 2
and another bunch of RAVERs will `race'  Press BOTH buttons and still
more RAVERs. 

http://www.dontronics.com/zip/raver.zip 
linked from:
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

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test

Hi,

FYI

Using the Kanda style programmer works with BASCOM and
all leds/jumpers installed. I just inform you all about this
incase you (Don) want to add that info or some-one like
to use that STK200 programmer or the Kanda AVR-ISP.

/Lars

----------------------------------------------------------
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Embedded hardware/software together with 8051/C16x/AVR and
smart distributed I/O with Controller Area Network (CAN).
See CANDIP at http://www.lawicel.com/candip/   AVR+SJA1000
Scandinavian SimmStick dealer & Scandinavian Kanda dealer
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>> Finally my Bascom demo could identify the chip!!
>>
>> The problem was: I used the new DT006, itīs a great PCB, but still there
is
>> not enough information on the web page from Don (IMHO). In their page
>> (DT006AVR),
>> Don said referring  to J9:
>>  "In order to get all 8 LEDs to flash, all 8 links will need to be
>> installed, however as Data signals D5, D6, and D7 (the last 3 links) may
>> upset the programming signals, you will need to remove these 3 links" and
>> then: "Make sure you have links installed for the first 5 LED positions
on
>> the J9 header pins. Leave D5,  D6, and D7 links out. These are the 3
links
>> nearest the Simm Socket position."
>> Well, in the programming phase, I had to remove the 8 links (not the last
>> three) in order to identify the chip.
>>
>> Iīm going to sleep well this night...:-)
>>
>> Thanks to all
>>
>> Jorge Ferrero
>
>Not only not enough info Jorge, but new data.
>i hadn't heard of the leds and resistors on the other 5 legs killing the
>ability to read the ID byte.
>I'll add this info to the page.
>mind you, i knew the above would load the circuit, so i guess it's up to
>the printer port drive characteristics. learning...learning....
>Cheers Don...
>
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>
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Hi Don:
I want to remarque that in some cases, you donīt need to remove the J9
links; for instance I wrote the Mick Gulovsen program (works nice!!) without
removing the links and it works O.K.
I send attached to you a very simple way of verifying the serial
communication between the PC and the DT006 (instructions inside the file
enjoyAVR.bas), but in this case, you must put all the J9 links out,
otherwise you have only garbage on the terminal emulator screen.
Regards
Jorge Ferrero


----- Original Message -----
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To: <simmstick@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 8:46 AM
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> Not only not enough info Jorge, but new data.
> i hadn't heard of the leds and resistors on the other 5 legs killing the
> ability to read the ID byte.
> I'll add this info to the page.
> mind you, i knew the above would load the circuit, so i guess it's up to
> the printer port drive characteristics. learning...learning....
> Cheers Don...
>
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>
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I've successfully modified uisp (http://medo.fov.uni-mb.si/mapp/uTools/) to
use the Sample Electronics style parallel cable as used with the DT006.

If anyone is interested in the source, drop me a line.

Tom Davies

tom@s...

Tom Davies wrote:
> 
> I've successfully modified uisp (http://medo.fov.uni-mb.si/mapp/uTools/) to
> use the Sample Electronics style parallel cable as used with the DT006.
> 
> If anyone is interested in the source, drop me a line.
> 
> Tom Davies
> 
> tom@s...

would you like me to put it on the Little "rAVeR!" page Tom?

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jferrero wrote:
> 
> Hi Don:
> I want to remarque that in some cases, you donīt need to remove the J9
> links; for instance I wrote the Mick Gulovsen program (works nice!!) without
> removing the links and it works O.K.
> I send attached to you a very simple way of verifying the serial
> communication between the PC and the DT006 (instructions inside the file
> enjoyAVR.bas), but in this case, you must put all the J9 links out,
> otherwise you have only garbage on the terminal emulator screen.
> Regards
> Jorge Ferrero

Thanks Jorge,
I added your message and the file to the Little "rAVeR!" page.

It's nice to know so many people are getting this thing up and running
with minimal effort and very few teething problems.

It beats the heck out of the old method we had of using 3 DT SimmStick
boards to do the same job.
In the near future, Mark Albert, the author of BASCOM-AVR said he would
put step by step hardware/software instructions together, and we will
post this to the page when we are ready.

Cheers Don...

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----- Original Message -----
From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
To: <simmstick@egroups.com>; <dtdealer@l...>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:41 PM
Subject: [simmstick] The Little "rAVeR!"


Don, itīs my pleasure
Jorge
>
> Thanks Jorge,
> I added your message and the file to the Little "rAVeR!" page.
>
> It's nice to know so many people are getting this thing up and running
> with minimal effort and very few teething problems.
>
> It beats the heck out of the old method we had of using 3 DT SimmStick
> boards to do the same job.
> In the near future, Mark Albert, the author of BASCOM-AVR said he would
> put step by step hardware/software instructions together, and we will
> post this to the page when we are ready.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
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23-May-2000
This board is now being manufacured.
DT209 I/O Expansion Board on a SimmStick
http://www.dontronics.com/dt209.html

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I need assistance.  BASCOM-AVR gives me a can't ID chip error when I 
try to download or ID the chip.

I just put together a DT104 with an AT90S2313.  I did not put the 
regulator on the board, but put it on a prototyping PCB instead. 
I've 
chacked for the proper voltages with the probe.  I'm using the 
parallel programming cable.  The I/O lines on port B would normally
be 
tied to some resistors and LEDs.  When I'm programming I open the 
connection between the resistors and the LEDs so the pins only have 
270 Ohm resistors hanging off them on the PCB.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance,

Boaz

Never mind.  I found the problem.  One of the grounded wires on the 
parallel cable was open.  Once that was fixed everything worked fine.

Boaz


--- In simmstick@egroups.com, boaz@m... wrote:
> I need assistance.  BASCOM-AVR gives me a can't ID chip error when
I 
> try to download or ID the chip.
> 
> I just put together a DT104 with an AT90S2313.  I did not put the 
> regulator on the board, but put it on a prototyping PCB instead. 
> I've 
> chacked for the proper voltages with the probe.  I'm using the 
> parallel programming cable.  The I/O lines on port B would normally
> be 
> tied to some resistors and LEDs.  When I'm programming I open the 
> connection between the resistors and the LEDs so the pins only have 
> 270 Ohm resistors hanging off them on the PCB.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Boaz

26-May-2000
DT006 programming under Linux
Yes the Little "rAVeR!" can now be programmed under Linux. (Thanks to
Tom Davies)
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html#linux

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WANTED: Beta testers for PIC CASE tool.

I'm about to release a state machine CASE tool that will produce code
which will run directly on the PIC. You draw the state diagrams, fill in
the names for the state transition functions, the state monitor
functions and the events. Write these functions in C or assembler and
the tool builds the state machine for you. Anyone used to writing
programs for the PIC will soon come to appreciate the ease with which
systems can be coded as sets of small discrete states. It is even
possible to have several state machines running in the same PIC
concurrently thus further simplifying system design.

There will be a hobbyist / student version which will only accept
assembler source, a standard version for normal commercial use which
will also accept C source and a professional version which will only be
of interest to people building multiprocessor machines with CPUs that
have large amounts of RAM. Both the hobbyist and standard versions come
with a built in CPU specific assembler. While the professional version
will come with XCASM a very powerful meta assembler (useful if you're
building your own CPU).

Several existing evaluation versions of this tool (each built for a
different development platform) which do not support the PIC but are
intended for large systems can be found at
http://www.xcprod.com/titan/ZMECH Using any one of them you will see how
it is possible to interactively debug a state machine by running the
generated code against the diagram and watching the events and state
transitions unfold on screen on the user drawn diagram.

The hobbyist / student version will sell for around $25 (distribution +
administrative costs) while the standard version will sell for around
$250. The professional version will be, as they say, reassuringly
expensive.

Anyone wishing to take part in the beta tests for the hobbyist / student
version of this PIC CASE tool should send me a private email.

Regards
Sergio Masci
Sentient Real Time Systems Ltd.
http://www.xcprod.com/titan

27-May-2000
"rAVeR!" DT006 AVR Development Board. Assembled and tested boards now
available. Also programming cables, so 
these little rAVeRs will now run "out of the box". Simply power them up
and watch the LEDs run, as they are programmed  with the rAVeR.bas demo
program.
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

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30-May-2000 
New DT209 SimmStick Expansion board now available. 

DT209 I/O Expansion Board on a SimmStick This board utilizes three I2C
bus expansion integrated circuits to provide a total of 24 expansion
lines. Each of the three port chips provides 8 i/o lines. These 24 i/o
lines allow for input and output expansion without sacrificing any of
the general control lines on the SimmBus. 
http://www.dontronics.com/dt209.html 

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I remember that sometime ago there was a subject about the USBSimm. Has anyone
used it? How good is it? I mean, is it enough, like an embedded system with
it's I/O? How *easy* is to program it? I've never used the USB interface so I
doubt it...

Cheers,
Mert

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Mert,

> I remember that sometime ago there was a subject about the 
> USBSimm. Has anyone
> used it? 

I've used hundreds. But then you should expect that. :-)


> How good is it? I mean, is it enough, like an 
> embedded system with
> it's I/O? 

The USBSIMM is an 8051 with 40k of RAM space, two serial ports, etc. Plus
the USB port. Take a look at http://usbsimm.home.att.net for the specs.


> How *easy* is to program it? I've never used the 
> USB interface so I
> doubt it...

"Easy" is all relative, of course. Take a look at the design guide on the
apps page. This was written by John Hyde specifically for the USBSIMM. John
is the author of "USB Design by Example". Another great USB book is "USB
Complete" by Jan Axelson.

You can get a 2k limited firmware compiler for the USBSIMM. Host examples in
C and VB are available.

You can email usb@j... with any other questions that you may have. 

-Rob Severson

 
> Cheers,
> Mert

I just got this message from a potential customer, and although I
couldn't help him directly with any constructional effort, I felt it was
interesting enough to post here, as someone may have an interest in what
John is trying to do.

I have asked his permission before posting his message. Please contact
John directly if you think you can assist and need full details.

James McGrath wrote:
James McGrath <jm.mcgrath@u...>
> Don
> I have just been to your amazing web site.......... and thought I might ask
> you some questions...
> 
> I am an artist in Sydney Australia, who has been commissioned by the Museum
> of Sydney to do a digital piece on the Harbour. Other than the usual digital
> animations I have secured a continuous ASCII data feed that measures the
> tide and wind of Sydney Harbour  on a ddn line. As I am no electronic genius
> I am unsure how to get this to read on a series of small (serial?) LCD
> screens that would be mounted in the Gallery of the museum. Can you suggest
> anything? or somebody?
> thanks for your time
> James McGrath
 
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James McGrath wrote:
> 
> Don
> 
> In the one hour since you posted my question, I have had at least 8 fabulous
> responses. I am now trying to work out the details of the project to give
> everyone a better idea of the scope of works etc.
> 
> thanks again
> 
> James McGrath
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:33 PM
> To: James McGrath
> Subject: Re: strange question
> 
> OK, will do, I'll get any interested party to post to you directly.
> Cheers Don...
> 
> James McGrath wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your interest.... of course you can post it on any message
> board
> > you like. I am unsure if there is enough info..e.g what type of data line
> is
> > it.
> >
> > but lets see what happens.
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> > James McGrath
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don McKenzie [mailto:don@d...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:41 AM
> > To: James McGrath
> > Subject: Re: strange question
> >
> > James McGrath wrote:
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > I have just been to your amazing web site.......... and thought I might
> > ask
> > > you some questions...
> > >
> > > I am an artist in Sydney Australia, who has been commissioned by the
> > Museum
> > > of Sydney to do a digital piece on the Harbour. Other than the usual
> > digital
> > > animations I have secured a continuous ASCII data feed that measures the
> > > tide and wind of Sydney Harbour  on a ddn line. As I am no electronic
> > genius
> > > I am unsure how to get this to read on a series of small (serial?) LCD
> > > screens that would be mounted in the Gallery of the museum. Can you
> > suggest
> > > anything? or somebody?
> > >
> > > thanks for your time
> > >
> > > James McGrath
> >
> > Hi James, sounds like an interesting commission.
> >
> > I can't help directly, but i would like see if I can get someone. i
> > think the best thing is to post your message to a group, or to several
> > groups with your permission.
> >
> > If you wanted to change the wording, dress it up, or leave as is fine,
> > just as long as you are happy with me posting it. i feel this is the
> > best way to get a response from an interested party.
> >
> > Cheers Don...

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I have the Micro Engineering Labs PIC basic compiler which I use with 
the PicStic 1, 2 and 3 from MicroMint.  I like the simple system but 
have nearly run out of these and need to change to something cheaper. 

I find the Dontronics pages very confusing.  

Can someone recommend a Dontronics model XXXX that I can use my MEL 
programmer and compiler software with??

If not can someone list the minimum starter kit of hardware and 
software for me to get into a Basic language Compiler & burner.

Thanks 
Brian

Brian Taylor wrote:
> 
> I have the Micro Engineering Labs PIC basic compiler which I use with
> the PicStic 1, 2 and 3 from MicroMint.  I like the simple system but
> have nearly run out of these and need to change to something cheaper.
> 
> I find the Dontronics pages very confusing.

yes me too Brian. I wish someone would clean it up. :-)
 
> Can someone recommend a Dontronics model XXXX that I can use my MEL
> programmer and compiler software with??
> 
> If not can someone list the minimum starter kit of hardware and
> software for me to get into a Basic language Compiler & burner.

If you are talking about an 84 chip only, then the dt101.
You will need to make up a simple 5 wire adapter between your existing
programmer and a 30 pin simm socket.
that is vpp, vcc, rb7, rb6, and gnd. Perhaps this could be done on a
breadboard with a suitable header to your programmer and a single 30 pin
simm socket, that's all you need.

We welcome refugee's. Please let us know if you have any further
questions I can help you with. 
Cheers Don...

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CC: KG1@g... (You have a lot to answer for) :-)

If you aren't on the DonTronics mailing list, you won't be getting the
regular Newsletter.
We now have 380 members, which isn't bad for a list that started in
December, and where the members must self-subscribe.

I have attached a snippet of the newsletter that illustrates the sort of
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Subject: Re: Edison is the father of electronics
 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 01:23:38 -0400
 From: Kirk Gordon <KG1@g...>
 Organization: Gordon Engineering Corporation
 Newsgroups:

rec.electronics,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.misc,sci.energy.hydrogen,sci.engr.mech,tw.bbs.sci.electronics

 George Jefferson wrote:
 >
 > we could probably argue that indian smoke signals were binary as
 well..<g>
 >
    You mean they weren't??

    "Chief Big Eagle say 'Hex-coded buffalo count to be transmitted 2.4K
 Seconds after local sunrise at Bear Mountain.  Bit-rate based on
 wind-velocity.  Synch-sequence to precede body of message'.  Me send
 answer by smoke, grandfather?  Or should I just fax it?"

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Interesting and funny on topic stories welcome.

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Hello  all..
i'm new in this group. 
I'm 30, working as an electronical engineer and industrial designer in kontel as of turkey. 

I'd like to exchange ideas about designs, digital systems, up based control systems and lots of other things. 

What i'd beed designing can be seen on my company's website
www.kontel.org
and what kinda life i've been living can be seen on my personal homesite.
http://www.geocities.com/ozkal.geo/

I'm looking for some international cooperation with you out there for bbuilding better products.. see ya all..
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Hi Don: 

Is there another mailing list, or we are talking about simmstick group?

regards

Jorge Ferrero
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
Newsgroups: aus.electronics
To: SimmStick Group <simmstick@e...>; <KG1@g...>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:35 PM
Subject: [simmstick] DonTronics Newsletter


> 
> CC: KG1@g... (You have a lot to answer for) :-)
> 
> If you aren't on the DonTronics mailing list, you won't be getting the
> regular Newsletter.
> We now have 380 members, which isn't bad for a list that started in
> December, and where the members must self-subscribe.
> 
> I have attached a snippet of the newsletter that illustrates the sort of
> vital information that you need to continue in your chosen
> profession/hobby.
> 
> To Join, Click on:
> http://www.dontronics.com
> then go down just a little way to the text:
> "Join the DonTronics mailing list! Enter your E-mail address below, then
> click the 'Join List' Button:"
> You can also view the archives of the newsletter. 
> http://www.listbot.com/archive/dontronics
> ======================================================

jferrero wrote:
> 
> Hi Don:
> 
> Is there another mailing list, or we are talking about simmstick group?
> 
> regards
> 
> Jorge Ferrero

I have left the message intact so the joining info is there.

The other is a DonTronics newsletter that I put out about every 2-4
weeks. A lot of it does get voiced here, however news, new products, and
version updates get a mention on the newsletter, as well as some
industry type general news.

However it is a one way info channel, a newsletter.
The archives can be read at any time, same as this SimmStick groups
messages.

Cheers Don...


> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
> Newsgroups: aus.electronics
> To: SimmStick Group <simmstick@e...>; <KG1@g...>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:35 PM
> Subject: [simmstick] DonTronics Newsletter
> 
> >
> > CC: KG1@g... (You have a lot to answer for) :-)
> >
> > If you aren't on the DonTronics mailing list, you won't be getting the
> > regular Newsletter.
> > We now have 380 members, which isn't bad for a list that started in
> > December, and where the members must self-subscribe.
> >
> > I have attached a snippet of the newsletter that illustrates the sort of
> > vital information that you need to continue in your chosen
> > profession/hobby.
> >
> > To Join, Click on:
> > http://www.dontronics.com
> > then go down just a little way to the text:
> > "Join the DonTronics mailing list! Enter your E-mail address below, then
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Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html