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From: Scott.Amenson@tenneco-automotive.com
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:50pm
Subject: Re: DT102 Simmstick Programming & Use

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
>
>
> rob.eddy@b... wrote:
> > The Dontronics pages indicate a limitation in programming the
DT102
> > in the slot 1 (programming slot) of the DT001. My questions are:
> >
> > Can the DT102 be programmed in DT001 slot 1? I think it can. ..and
> > Are there any limitations (traps for young players) of the DT102
in
> > slot 1?
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Robert Eddy
>
> Hi Rob,
> The Dontronics pages need a real update I know, the dt001 being one
of
> the main offenders.
> Promises from users to fix it have all fallen down.
> as i have massively updated the shopping cart area, I'll get in and
fix
> some of the assembly pages as well. these have been hybrid-ed (is
that a
> word) over a period of about 4 years, and info has just been tacked
on.
>
> having said that, i just wonder why you ask this question.
> The PICmicro's can only been programmed by putting them in slot one.
> there is no other programming slot.
>
> For AVR users that have been using a dt001 board, you never put an
avr
> into slot 1, as the dt001 was designed as a PICmicro programmer.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Thanks Don,
I thought the DT102 may require the PIC programmed outside the board
ie in the ZIF socket on the DT001. I have finished the construction
of
the DT001 and am in the process of getting it to work - see another
post.
Regards
Robert


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392

From: Scott.Amenson@tenneco-automotive.com
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:50pm
Subject: Re: DT102 Simmstick Programming & Use

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
>
>
> rob.eddy@b... wrote:
> > The Dontronics pages indicate a limitation in programming the
DT102
> > in the slot 1 (programming slot) of the DT001. My questions are:
> >
> > Can the DT102 be programmed in DT001 slot 1? I think it can. ..and
> > Are there any limitations (traps for young players) of the DT102
in
> > slot 1?
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Robert Eddy
>
> Hi Rob,
> The Dontronics pages need a real update I know, the dt001 being one
of
> the main offenders.
> Promises from users to fix it have all fallen down.
> as i have massively updated the shopping cart area, I'll get in and
fix
> some of the assembly pages as well. these have been hybrid-ed (is
that a
> word) over a period of about 4 years, and info has just been tacked
on.
>
> having said that, i just wonder why you ask this question.
> The PICmicro's can only been programmed by putting them in slot one.
> there is no other programming slot.
>
> For AVR users that have been using a dt001 board, you never put an
avr
> into slot 1, as the dt001 was designed as a PICmicro programmer.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Thanks Don,
I thought the DT102 may require the PIC programmed outside the board
ie in the ZIF socket on the DT001. I have finished the construction
of
the DT001 and am in the process of getting it to work - see another
post.
Regards
Robert


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393

From: Scott.Amenson@tenneco-automotive.com
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:50pm
Subject: Re: DT102 Simmstick Programming & Use

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
>
>
> rob.eddy@b... wrote:
> > The Dontronics pages indicate a limitation in programming the
DT102
> > in the slot 1 (programming slot) of the DT001. My questions are:
> >
> > Can the DT102 be programmed in DT001 slot 1? I think it can. ..and
> > Are there any limitations (traps for young players) of the DT102
in
> > slot 1?
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Robert Eddy
>
> Hi Rob,
> The Dontronics pages need a real update I know, the dt001 being one
of
> the main offenders.
> Promises from users to fix it have all fallen down.
> as i have massively updated the shopping cart area, I'll get in and
fix
> some of the assembly pages as well. these have been hybrid-ed (is
that a
> word) over a period of about 4 years, and info has just been tacked
on.
>
> having said that, i just wonder why you ask this question.
> The PICmicro's can only been programmed by putting them in slot one.
> there is no other programming slot.
>
> For AVR users that have been using a dt001 board, you never put an
avr
> into slot 1, as the dt001 was designed as a PICmicro programmer.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Thanks Don,
I thought the DT102 may require the PIC programmed outside the board
ie in the ZIF socket on the DT001. I have finished the construction
of
the DT001 and am in the process of getting it to work - see another
post.
Regards
Robert


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394

From: Scott.Amenson@tenneco-automotive.com
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:50pm
Subject: Re: DT102 Simmstick Programming & Use

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
>
>
> rob.eddy@b... wrote:
> > The Dontronics pages indicate a limitation in programming the
DT102
> > in the slot 1 (programming slot) of the DT001. My questions are:
> >
> > Can the DT102 be programmed in DT001 slot 1? I think it can. ..and
> > Are there any limitations (traps for young players) of the DT102
in
> > slot 1?
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Robert Eddy
>
> Hi Rob,
> The Dontronics pages need a real update I know, the dt001 being one
of
> the main offenders.
> Promises from users to fix it have all fallen down.
> as i have massively updated the shopping cart area, I'll get in and
fix
> some of the assembly pages as well. these have been hybrid-ed (is
that a
> word) over a period of about 4 years, and info has just been tacked
on.
>
> having said that, i just wonder why you ask this question.
> The PICmicro's can only been programmed by putting them in slot one.
> there is no other programming slot.
>
> For AVR users that have been using a dt001 board, you never put an
avr
> into slot 1, as the dt001 was designed as a PICmicro programmer.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Thanks Don,
I thought the DT102 may require the PIC programmed outside the board
ie in the ZIF socket on the DT001. I have finished the construction
of
the DT001 and am in the process of getting it to work - see another
post.
Regards
Robert


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From: Scott.Amenson@tenneco-automotive.com
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:50pm
Subject: Re: DT102 Simmstick Programming & Use

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
>
>
> rob.eddy@b... wrote:
> > The Dontronics pages indicate a limitation in programming the
DT102
> > in the slot 1 (programming slot) of the DT001. My questions are:
> >
> > Can the DT102 be programmed in DT001 slot 1? I think it can. ..and
> > Are there any limitations (traps for young players) of the DT102
in
> > slot 1?
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Robert Eddy
>
> Hi Rob,
> The Dontronics pages need a real update I know, the dt001 being one
of
> the main offenders.
> Promises from users to fix it have all fallen down.
> as i have massively updated the shopping cart area, I'll get in and
fix
> some of the assembly pages as well. these have been hybrid-ed (is
that a
> word) over a period of about 4 years, and info has just been tacked
on.
>
> having said that, i just wonder why you ask this question.
> The PICmicro's can only been programmed by putting them in slot one.
> there is no other programming slot.
>
> For AVR users that have been using a dt001 board, you never put an
avr
> into slot 1, as the dt001 was designed as a PICmicro programmer.
>
> Cheers Don...
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html

Thanks Don,
I thought the DT102 may require the PIC programmed outside the board
ie in the ZIF socket on the DT001. I have finished the construction
of
the DT001 and am in the process of getting it to work - see another
post.
Regards
Robert


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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 7:22pm
Subject: multiple messages

   
to:
Scott.Amenson@t...

don't know why this is taking place, but i have just dropped Scott from
the member list.

Cheers Don...

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
397

From: Robert Eddy  <rob.eddy@baesystems.com>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:57pm
Subject: Having Trouble Getting a DT001 to Work

   
Have just completed a DT001 board and having trouble getting it to 
work.

1. The board does not have the MAX232 and associated components
fitted 
(ie the MAX232, C8,9,10,11, R12,13, L5,6,7,8, R14,15,17). Also the 
Boot & Reset switch is not fitted.

2. The voltages are: PWR=16.43V; +5V=5.08V; Output of 78L12=13.6V

3. When powered without computer connected PWR & 5V LEDs ON and VDD & 
VPP LEDs OFF. With computer connected all 4 LEDs ON (this wrong I 
think).

4. Software is WPicProg16 V1.21.

5. With the computer connected the software reports the programmer 
connected to 378H (correct!).

6. If I erase the PIC16F84 in the DT001 ZIF socket, the VDD LED goes 
out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports that the PIC is 
erased.

7. With a HEX file loaded and I read the PIC, the VDD LED goes out
and 
the VPP LED blinks and the software reports the data read into the 
buffer with the values in the window returning to 3FFH. (this appears 
to be working OK).

8. If I load the HEX file again and attempt to write to the PIC the 
following occurs: 

the VDD LED goes out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports 
Program Verify Failed on Line 0, Programming Aborted.

both the VDD and VPP LEDs remain OFF until the error message is 
cleared.


I would appreciate any pointers or ideas as to the problem. I have 
checked soldering, component orientation & values and am looking for 
some assistance.

Thanks in anticipation

Robert Eddy
398

From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 9:06pm
Subject: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
Hi All,

I'm new to this group. While reading previous postings I came across 
8051. Which simmstick board supports 8051 series of microcontroller?

Thanks.
399

From: Lars Wictorsson  <lars@lawicel.com>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 6:01am
Subject: SV: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
Hi

>I'm new to this group. While reading previous postings I came across
>8051. Which simmstick board supports 8051 series of microcontroller?


DT103 & DT104 suits both Atmel AVR's (type AT90) and Atmel 8051 (type AT89).

/Lars

----------------------------------------------------------
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Lars Wictorsson            Fax    : +46 (0)451 - 598 78
E-mail: lars@l...   WWW    : http://www.lawicel.com

Embedded hardware/software together with 8051/C16x/AVR and
smart distributed I/O with Controller Area Network (CAN).
The Smart way of rapid CAN development ---> www.candip.com
----------------------------------------------------------
400

From: Nigel Goodwin  <nigelg@lpilsley.co.uk>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 6:08am
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Getting a DT001 to Work

   
In message <8pv95o+b90h@e...>, Robert Eddy
<rob.eddy@b...> writes
>Have just completed a DT001 board and having trouble getting it to 
>work.
>
>1. The board does not have the MAX232 and associated components
>fitted 
>(ie the MAX232, C8,9,10,11, R12,13, L5,6,7,8, R14,15,17). Also the 
>Boot & Reset switch is not fitted.
>
>2. The voltages are: PWR=16.43V; +5V=5.08V; Output of 78L12=13.6V
>
>3. When powered without computer connected PWR & 5V LEDs ON and VDD & 
>VPP LEDs OFF. With computer connected all 4 LEDs ON (this wrong I 
>think).
>
>4. Software is WPicProg16 V1.21.
>
>5. With the computer connected the software reports the programmer 
>connected to 378H (correct!).
>
>6. If I erase the PIC16F84 in the DT001 ZIF socket, the VDD LED goes 
>out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports that the PIC is 
>erased.
>
>7. With a HEX file loaded and I read the PIC, the VDD LED goes out
>and 
>the VPP LED blinks and the software reports the data read into the 
>buffer with the values in the window returning to 3FFH. (this appears 
>to be working OK).
>
>8. If I load the HEX file again and attempt to write to the PIC the 
>following occurs: 
>
>the VDD LED goes out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports 
>Program Verify Failed on Line 0, Programming Aborted.
>
>both the VDD and VPP LEDs remain OFF until the error message is 
>cleared.

The usual cause of this error is that the PIC isn't being switched to
'programming mode' - usually because the power supply is too low. Use
the hardware 'toggle' options to turn both VDD and VPP on, and measure
the voltage on the reset pin of the PIC - it really wants to be about 13
volts. What are you using for a PSU?, I use two 9 volt batteries in
series, and get this problem when the batteries go flat - if you are
using a 'wall-wart' type PSU, these mostly have terrible regulation and
the 16 volts could easily drop too low when programming.

-- 

Nigel.

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401

From: Guy North  <aufempen@dyson.brisnet.org.au>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 8:27am
Subject: Interrupts: thank you to

   
Thank you
to Bruce, Leon, Andy and Giovanni who answered 
my posting, last week, on this forum.
The subject was about interrupts.
 
After your answers it was a lot easier to explain to my son.
Your answers were of great benefit to me as well because
every answer had a different point a view which
allowed the problem to be viewed with different angles.
Angles I never thought about in these termns

I learn a lot.
Good on you Simmstick team.
Cheers   Guy
402

From: Robert Eddy  <rob.eddy@baesystems.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 0:38pm
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Getting a DT001 to Work

   
--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Nigel Goodwin <nigelg@l...> wrote:
> In message <8pv95o+b90h@e...>, Robert Eddy
> <rob.eddy@b...> writes
> >Have just completed a DT001 board and having trouble getting it to 
> >work.
> >
> >1. The board does not have the MAX232 and associated components
> >fitted 
> >(ie the MAX232, C8,9,10,11, R12,13, L5,6,7,8, R14,15,17). Also the 
> >Boot & Reset switch is not fitted.
> >
> >2. The voltages are: PWR=16.43V; +5V=5.08V; Output of 78L12=13.6V
> >
> >3. When powered without computer connected PWR & 5V LEDs ON and 
VDD & 
> >VPP LEDs OFF. With computer connected all 4 LEDs ON (this wrong I 
> >think).
> >
> >4. Software is WPicProg16 V1.21.
> >
> >5. With the computer connected the software reports the programmer 
> >connected to 378H (correct!).
> >
> >6. If I erase the PIC16F84 in the DT001 ZIF socket, the VDD LED 
goes 
> >out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports that the PIC 
is 
> >erased.
> >
> >7. With a HEX file loaded and I read the PIC, the VDD LED goes out
> >and 
> >the VPP LED blinks and the software reports the data read into the 
> >buffer with the values in the window returning to 3FFH. (this 
appears 
> >to be working OK).
> >
> >8. If I load the HEX file again and attempt to write to the PIC 
the 
> >following occurs: 
> >
> >the VDD LED goes out and the VPP LED blinks and the software 
reports 
> >Program Verify Failed on Line 0, Programming Aborted.
> >
> >both the VDD and VPP LEDs remain OFF until the error message is 
> >cleared.
> 
> The usual cause of this error is that the PIC isn't being switched 
to
> 'programming mode' - usually because the power supply is too low. 
Use
> the hardware 'toggle' options to turn both VDD and VPP on, and 
measure
> the voltage on the reset pin of the PIC - it really wants to be 
about 13
> volts. What are you using for a PSU?, I use two 9 volt batteries in
> series, and get this problem when the batteries go flat - if you are
> using a 'wall-wart' type PSU, these mostly have terrible regulation 
and
> the 16 volts could easily drop too low when programming.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Nigel.
> 

Nigel,
Thank you for your help. I actually got the system to program a 
P16F84 after I sent out the help message. I increased the delay from 
10ms to 20ms (the maximum) in the hardware defintion table. The 
systems now writes PICs with no problems - a bit slower of course - 
25 seconds for a full PIC cf the normal 12 - 15 secs. I can live with 
that.

Presumably the delay is enough to allow the 12V AC Plug Pack (wall 
wart) voltage to settle or recover to the correct level. The plug 
pack is rated at 500 mA so I am surprised it is having trouble 
supplying a fraction of the current with such poor load regulation.

Thanks again

Robert
403

From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 1:47pm
Subject: Re: SV: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
Is there anything for 8051 (40 pin DIP) target simmstick like DT101. 
DT103 and DT104 are just the motherboards.

Thanks.

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, "Lars Wictorsson" <lars@l...> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> DT103 & DT104 suits both Atmel AVR's (type AT90) and Atmel 8051 
(type AT89).
> 
> /Lars
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> LAWICEL                    Phone  : +46 (0)451 - 598 77
> Lars Wictorsson            Fax    : +46 (0)451 - 598 78
> E-mail: lars@l...   WWW    : http://www.lawicel.com
> 
> Embedded hardware/software together with 8051/C16x/AVR and
> smart distributed I/O with Controller Area Network (CAN).
> The Smart way of rapid CAN development ---> www.candip.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
404

From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 2:20pm
Subject: Assembling DT001 !

   
Hi People,

I'm assembling the programmer portion of the DT001 board and while 
building it I'll be throwing a few questions to the group if I run 
into problems.

My first question is whether I can use 1N4001 instead of 1N4004 for 
D1 and D2? Reason is I don't want to buy 50 of 1N4004 while I have a 
few 1N4001. I think there is some voltage drop difference between 
1N4004 & 1N4001 but I'm not sure how much.

Please help.. TIA

XChet
405

From: Leon Blakeley  <l.blakeley@cfa.vic.gov.au>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 3:36pm
Subject: Re: Assembling DT001 !

   
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Hi People,

I'm assembling the programmer portion of the DT001 board and while
building it I'll be throwing a few questions to the group if I run
into problems.

My first question is whether I can use 1N4001 instead of 1N4004 for
D1 and D2? Reason is I don't want to buy 50 of 1N4004 while I have a
few 1N4001. I think there is some voltage drop difference between
1N4004 & 1N4001 but I'm not sure how much.

I think the main difference is Voltage rating 400 V versus 100 V neither should be bothered by 12 V
cheers
 

Please help.. TIA

XChet

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From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 3:04pm
Subject: Re: Assembling DT001 !

   
Hi Leon,

I think the 400V and 100V is the PIV (Peak Inverse Voltage) and not 
the series drop voltage. In DT001 we are using the diodes as they 
drop about 1 volt.

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Leon Blakeley <l.blakeley@c...> wrote:
>
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From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 3:28pm
Subject: Re: Assembling DT001 !

   
I just had a look at the 1N4001 - 1N4007 datasheet from Fairchild and 
according to it all the rectifiers have same forward forward drop 
voltage of 1.1V @ 1.0A . So we can use 1N4001 instead of 1N4004.

Any comments?

XChet

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Leon Blakeley <l.blakeley@c...> wrote:
>
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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:59pm
Subject: Re: SV: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
XChet wrote:
> Is there anything for 8051 (40 pin DIP) target simmstick like DT101.
> DT103 and DT104 are just the motherboards.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --- In simmstick@egroups.com, "Lars Wictorsson" <lars@l...> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > DT103 & DT104 suits both Atmel AVR's (type AT90) and Atmel 8051
> (type AT89).
> >
> > /Lars

The dt103 is a target board and we will have a dt107 soon which will
replace the dt103.
Cheers Don...

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From: Andy Stephenson  <andy.stephenson@asamicros.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: Having Trouble Getting a DT001 to Work

   
Robert,

Is the PSU 12V regulated, or unregulated? 12V unregulated is good, as it
is about 17V off load. A 12V regulated supply by the time it has gone
through  the bridge rectifier, does not cut it.

Rgds...

...Andy

Robert Eddy wrote:
> 
> 
> --- In simmstick@egroups.com, Nigel Goodwin <nigelg@l...> wrote:
> > In message <8pv95o+b90h@e...>, Robert Eddy
> > <rob.eddy@b...> writes
> > >Have just completed a DT001 board and having trouble getting it to
> > >work.
> > >
> > >1. The board does not have the MAX232 and associated components
> > >fitted
> > >(ie the MAX232, C8,9,10,11, R12,13, L5,6,7,8, R14,15,17). Also the
> > >Boot & Reset switch is not fitted.
> > >
> > >2. The voltages are: PWR=16.43V; +5V=5.08V; Output of 78L12=13.6V
> > >
> > >3. When powered without computer connected PWR & 5V LEDs ON and
> VDD &
> > >VPP LEDs OFF. With computer connected all 4 LEDs ON (this wrong I
> > >think).
> > >
> > >4. Software is WPicProg16 V1.21.
> > >
> > >5. With the computer connected the software reports the programmer
> > >connected to 378H (correct!).
> > >
> > >6. If I erase the PIC16F84 in the DT001 ZIF socket, the VDD LED
> goes
> > >out and the VPP LED blinks and the software reports that the PIC
> is
> > >erased.
> > >
> > >7. With a HEX file loaded and I read the PIC, the VDD LED goes out
> > >and
> > >the VPP LED blinks and the software reports the data read into the
> > >buffer with the values in the window returning to 3FFH. (this
> appears
> > >to be working OK).
> > >
> > >8. If I load the HEX file again and attempt to write to the PIC
> the
> > >following occurs:
> > >
> > >the VDD LED goes out and the VPP LED blinks and the software
> reports
> > >Program Verify Failed on Line 0, Programming Aborted.
> > >
> > >both the VDD and VPP LEDs remain OFF until the error message is
> > >cleared.
> >
> > The usual cause of this error is that the PIC isn't being switched
> to
> > 'programming mode' - usually because the power supply is too low.
> Use
> > the hardware 'toggle' options to turn both VDD and VPP on, and
> measure
> > the voltage on the reset pin of the PIC - it really wants to be
> about 13
> > volts. What are you using for a PSU?, I use two 9 volt batteries in
> > series, and get this problem when the batteries go flat - if you are
> > using a 'wall-wart' type PSU, these mostly have terrible regulation
> and
> > the 16 volts could easily drop too low when programming.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Nigel.
> >
> 
> Nigel,
> Thank you for your help. I actually got the system to program a
> P16F84 after I sent out the help message. I increased the delay from
> 10ms to 20ms (the maximum) in the hardware defintion table. The
> systems now writes PICs with no problems - a bit slower of course -
> 25 seconds for a full PIC cf the normal 12 - 15 secs. I can live with
> that.
> 
> Presumably the delay is enough to allow the 12V AC Plug Pack (wall
> wart) voltage to settle or recover to the correct level. The plug
> pack is rated at 500 mA so I am surprised it is having trouble
> supplying a fraction of the current with such poor load regulation.
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Robert
> 
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From: Andy Stephenson  <andy.stephenson@asamicros.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: Assembling DT001 !

   
It will be OK.

Rgds...

...Andy

XChet wrote:
> 
> 
> I just had a look at the 1N4001 - 1N4007 datasheet from Fairchild and
> according to it all the rectifiers have same forward forward drop
> voltage of 1.1V @ 1.0A . So we can use 1N4001 instead of 1N4004.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> XChet
> 
> --- In simmstick@egroups.com, Leon Blakeley <l.blakeley@c...> wrote:
> >
> 
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From: Andy Stephenson  <andy.stephenson@asamicros.com>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:19pm
Subject: Re: SV: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
My interpretation would be the DT001's and the like are motherboards.
The DT103, DT104 are processor carriers that plug into motherboards - or
stand alone of you want them to.

Rgds...

...Andy

XChet wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there anything for 8051 (40 pin DIP) target simmstick like DT101.
> DT103 and DT104 are just the motherboards.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --- In simmstick@egroups.com, "Lars Wictorsson" <lars@l...> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > DT103 & DT104 suits both Atmel AVR's (type AT90) and Atmel 8051
> (type AT89).
> >
> > /Lars
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > LAWICEL                    Phone  : +46 (0)451 - 598 77
> > Lars Wictorsson            Fax    : +46 (0)451 - 598 78
> > E-mail: lars@l...   WWW    : http://www.lawicel.com
> >
> > Embedded hardware/software together with 8051/C16x/AVR and
> > smart distributed I/O with Controller Area Network (CAN).
> > The Smart way of rapid CAN development ---> www.candip.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
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> 
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From: XChet  <xchet@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:28am
Subject: Re: SV: Simmstick & 8051 series

   
Hi Don,

I saw dt107 and it looks nice.

Thnaks.

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Don McKenzie <don@d...> wrote:
> 
> 
> The dt103 is a target board and we will have a dt107 soon which will
> replace the dt103.
> Cheers Don...
> 
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
> 
> The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and 
Software
> Free Basic Compiler and Programmer 
http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
> The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit 
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
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From: Leon Blakeley  <l.blakeley@cfa.vic.gov.au>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 9:46am
Subject: Re: Re: Assembling DT001 !

   
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Hi Leon,

I think the 400V and 100V is the PIV (Peak Inverse Voltage) and not
the series drop voltage. In DT001 we are using the diodes as they
drop about 1 volt.

True, the point I was trying to make is that in most other respects they are similar, I would have expected the forward voltage to be around 0.7 v a typical general purpose silicon diode in fact!
cheers,
 

--- In simmstick@egroups.com, Leon Blakeley wrote:
>

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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:14am
Subject: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
19-Sep-2000
Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board via a
computer parallel port by Peter Averill

http://www.geocities.com/microcontrollers/relatedprojects/pcswled/relay.html

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
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From: Rama Tiwari  <robotics@gwr1.dot.net.in>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 0:57pm
Subject: Re: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
Hello Don

Can I get the relay board as well the Parallel port interface board?

Shyam

-----Original Message-----
From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
To: SimmStick Group <simmstick@e...>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:21 AM
Subject: [simmstick] Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205
relay board


>
>19-Sep-2000
>Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board via a
>computer parallel port by Peter Averill
>
>http://www.geocities.com/microcontrollers/relatedprojects/pcswled/relay.htm
l
>
>Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
>The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
>Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
>The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
>
>To Post a message, send it to:   simmstick@e...
>
>To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: simmstick-unsubscribe@e...
>
>
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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:20pm
Subject: Re: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
Rama Tiwari wrote:

> Hello Don
> 
> Can I get the relay board as well the Parallel port interface board?
> 
> Shyam

of course, but perhaps it should be in private email if you wish to make
a purchase.
Cheers Don...

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 6:30pm
Subject: http://www.dontronics.com/simm101.html

   
19-Sep-2000 
SIMM101 is an embedded microcontroller board built upon the SimmStick
standard with surface mounted technique to get a small layout with only
the core functions of a Microcontroller AT90S2313. This unit is DT104
Compatible and is assembled and tested, not a kit. 
http://www.dontronics.com/simm101.html 

Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com

The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html
The Little "rAVeR!" AVR & Basic Kit http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
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From: jferrero  <jferrero@unsj.edu.ar>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:39pm
Subject: RE: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
Nice work Peter!

Did you program in Visual Basic? version?
Is it possible to access to the source code?

Thank you!

Jorge Ferrero

----- Original Message -----
From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
To: SimmStick Group <simmstick@e...>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 8:14 PM
Subject: [simmstick] Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205
relay board
>
> 19-Sep-2000
> Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board via a
> computer parallel port by Peter Averill
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/microcontrollers/relatedprojects/pcswled/relay.html
>
> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>
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From: Rama Tiwari  <robotics@gwr1.dot.net.in>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2000 1:30am
Subject: Re: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
I agree, that this work is looks very good.

Shyam

-----Original Message-----
From: jferrero <jferrero@u...>
To: simmstick@e... <simmstick@e...>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [simmstick] Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics
DT205 relay board


>
>Nice work Peter!
>
>Did you program in Visual Basic? version?
>Is it possible to access to the source code?
>
>Thank you!
>
>Jorge Ferrero
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Don McKenzie <don@d...>
>To: SimmStick Group <simmstick@e...>
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 8:14 PM
>Subject: [simmstick] Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205
>relay board
>>
>> 19-Sep-2000
>> Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board via a
>> computer parallel port by Peter Averill
>>
>>
>http://www.geocities.com/microcontrollers/relatedprojects/pcswled/relay.htm
l
>>
>> Don McKenzie    mailto:don@d...      http://www.dontronics.com
>>
>
>
>
>To Post a message, send it to:   simmstick@e...
>
>To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: simmstick-unsubscribe@e...
>
>
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From: Don McKenzie  <don@dontronics.com>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2000 9:12am
Subject: Re: Interfacing real world things with a Dontronics DT205 relay board

   
jferrero wrote:
> 
> Nice work Peter!
> 
> Did you program in Visual Basic? version?
> Is it possible to access to the source code?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Jorge Ferrero

as far as I know Peter isn't on this list, so you may have to get his
email from that site for questions.
Cheers Don...

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The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR  & PICmicro Hardware and Software
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