I got a message back from Jim of Newfound, regarding the warp-13 and the
16f628a:

>16F62xA, 16F648A, 18Fx520 support.
>
>An experimental (untested) driver for these new pics is available here:
>
>http://users.pipeline.com.au/newfound/special/warp13.exe
>
>If any of you are able to test will these chips I would appreciate 
>feedback, Thanks.

So Jim has the drivers, Bojan it appears doesn't.

Don...

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> 
> I got a message back from Jim of Newfound, regarding the warp-13 and the
> 16f628a:
> 
> >16F62xA, 16F648A, 18Fx520 support.
> >
> >An experimental (untested) driver for these new pics is available here:
> >
> >http://users.pipeline.com.au/newfound/special/warp13.exe
> >
> >If any of you are able to test will these chips I would appreciate 
> >feedback, Thanks.
> 
> So Jim has the drivers, Bojan it appears doesn't.
> 
> Don...
> 
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Don do you have any yet ?

I'm doing hardware support for a uni subject
and some of the students somehow managed to buy some
as replacement chips after blowing the 16f628's
that were supplied. 
(I think air mailed fom HongKong)

So I need to check that the sample programs that are provided 
will run on the 16f628A's.
A couple use timer 1 and most likely I'll need to change them.

I'm still waiting for the Microchip rep in Sydney to get
back to me if they are supposed to be available yet.

Alex
Gibson

alxx@a... wrote:
> 
> Don do you have any yet ?
> 
> I'm doing hardware support for a uni subject
> and some of the students somehow managed to buy some
> as replacement chips after blowing the 16f628's
> that were supplied.
> (I think air mailed fom HongKong)
> 
> So I need to check that the sample programs that are provided
> will run on the 16f628A's.
> A couple use timer 1 and most likely I'll need to change them.
> 
> I'm still waiting for the Microchip rep in Sydney to get
> back to me if they are supposed to be available yet.
> 
> Alex

No Alex, I just got 628's from the local supplier in the last week.
Didn't think they were peddling the 'a's yet.

Don...

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don McKenzie" <support2003@d...>
To: <simmstick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [simmstick] 16f628a


> alxx@a... wrote:
> > 
> > Don do you have any yet ?
> > 
> > I'm doing hardware support for a uni subject
> > and some of the students somehow managed to buy some
> > as replacement chips after blowing the 16f628's
> > that were supplied.
> > (I think air mailed fom HongKong)
> > 
> > So I need to check that the sample programs that are provided
> > will run on the 16f628A's.
> > A couple use timer 1 and most likely I'll need to change them.
> > 
> > I'm still waiting for the Microchip rep in Sydney to get
> > back to me if they are supposed to be available yet.
> > 
> > Alex
> 
> No Alex, I just got 628's from the local supplier in the last week.
> Didn't think they were peddling the 'a's yet.
> 

According to the Microchip rep
the 16F628A'S are available for sale in Sydney and worldwide.
Told to try Farnell or RS.

Samples for the 16F648 will be available end of May but
won't be available for sale until late June.

Alex

Just ordered some 16F628 and 16F627s and tried them out. Both program fine
on the DT001 with both P16PRO and WinPicProg. I guess the confusion came
about when P16PRO listed the 16F628a and 16F627a in its menu (v0.14a
beta). It however does not appear as if it correctly programs it the a
versions. Now I have 6 a chips! Well at least I can get on to the
coding...

Thanks for the help from the list.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Don McKenzie [mailto:support2003@d...]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:20 PM
To: SimmStick Group
Subject: [simmstick] 16f628a



I got a message back from Jim of Newfound, regarding the warp-13 and the
16f628a:

>16F62xA, 16F648A, 18Fx520 support.
>
>An experimental (untested) driver for these new pics is available here:
>
>http://users.pipeline.com.au/newfound/special/warp13.exe
>
>If any of you are able to test will these chips I would appreciate
>feedback, Thanks.

So Jim has the drivers, Bojan it appears doesn't.

Don...

dohan@W... wrote:
> 
> Just ordered some 16F628 and 16F627s and tried them out. Both program
> fine
> on the DT001 with both P16PRO and WinPicProg. I guess the confusion
> came
> about when P16PRO listed the 16F628a and 16F627a in its menu (v0.14a
> beta). It however does not appear as if it correctly programs it the a
> versions. Now I have 6 a chips! Well at least I can get on to the
> coding...
> 
> Thanks for the help from the list.
> 
> Chris

Glad to see you returned to sanity Chris. :-)

Jim is still after feed back also.

Don...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don McKenzie [mailto:support2003@d...]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:20 PM
> To: SimmStick Group
> Subject: [simmstick] 16f628a
> 
> I got a message back from Jim of Newfound, regarding the warp-13 and
> the
> 16f628a:
> 
> >16F62xA, 16F648A, 18Fx520 support.
> >
> >An experimental (untested) driver for these new pics is available
> here:
> >
> >http://users.pipeline.com.au/newfound/special/warp13.exe
> >
> >If any of you are able to test will these chips I would appreciate
> >feedback, Thanks.
> 
> So Jim has the drivers, Bojan it appears doesn't.
> 
> Don...
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Hi,

SV_RFID (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sv_rfid/)
is a Yahoo group that aims to gather together those
who have common interest in RFID, not only as just
a technology but also as a huge business
opportunity. 

A quote from Forrester Research says,


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product. Fast forward 10 years, and it could
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For a quick tour of how this technology
may affect your life please go to,

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SV_RFID hopes to provide an environment where
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More specifically from technology perspective we
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software infrastructure, database, datamining etc.
From  business applications perspective we may
cover topics in SCM, ERP, EAI, middleware,
logistics, retail, manufacturing, homeland
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government, etc. We would also like to discuss
issues regarding privacy, security and standards.

Our members include executives, professors, VCs,
engineers, lawyers, business analysts, university
students, etc.

We cordially invite you to join us!
 
SV_RFID Group

5-Jun-2003
My board man manufactured a small quantity of DT106 (28/40 Pin PICmicro
on a SimmStick) in a board thickness of 1.00mm, instead of 1.26mm, so
they don't fit a Simm Socket. Half price until sold out. Have called
them DT106-Thin.

http://www.dontronics.com/dt106thin.html

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since i have never seen any of these things you guys are talking 
about could someone please explain the difference or relationship 
these parts have to each other AVR , STAMP, SIMMSTICK and PIC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "indeedau" <peterr1@i...>
To: <simmstick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:55 AM
Subject: [simmstick] confused


> since i have never seen any of these things you guys are talking 
> about could someone please explain the difference or relationship 
> these parts have to each other AVR , STAMP, SIMMSTICK and PIC 

http://www.dontronics.com

Leon
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Hi!

Can anyone point me to some information about the (general) electrical
data of SIMM modules and SIMM sockets? Or a specification for x86
systems? I need to know how much current the contacs can carry.
I like the idea of using SIMM sockets as a cheap connector for
embedded systems. But I think it's better do rely on specs/datasheets
when designing custom electronics that drives some pins with more then
one ampere...

With best regards
Thorsten Ostermann

Well, you are a little confused as to what each of these devices are, so
here it is:

AVR & PIC - both are Microcontrollers.  Little computers that you
program to do things.  Each is an electronics chip you hook up.

STAMP - A little board made with a little bit of EEPROM, a type of
memory that remembers even without power, and a PIC.  It does the same
thing as the AVR & PIC only it is programmed in BASIC and allows for
easier interfacing and less components hooked to your chip

SIMMSTICK - A standard for building a stamp like device for AVR, PIC &
8051 microcontrollers.  These boards allow or easy prototyping and
production as it connects these parts to required components (crystal,
capacitors, ...) and allows you to also connect optional components as
needed.

I hope this helps.  If you are still a bit confused, you may want to get
hold of an electronics tutorial online and read up on electronics first,
then read up on microcontrollers.

Cheers
Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: indeedau [mailto:peterr1@i...] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:56 AM
To: simmstick@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [simmstick] confused

since i have never seen any of these things you guys are talking 
about could someone please explain the difference or relationship 
these parts have to each other AVR , STAMP, SIMMSTICK and PIC 



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At 03:35 PM 6/16/2003 +0000, simmstick@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>Message: 4
>    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:20:09 -0400
>    From: "Jeremy Proffitt" <rebeltech@c...>
>Subject: RE: confused
>
>Well, you are a little confused as to what each of these devices are, so
>here it is:
>
>AVR & PIC - both are Microcontrollers.  Little computers that you
>program to do things.  Each is an electronics chip you hook up.
>
>STAMP - A little board made with a little bit of EEPROM, a type of
>memory that remembers even without power, and a PIC.  It does the same
>thing as the AVR & PIC only it is programmed in BASIC and allows for
>easier interfacing and less components hooked to your chip

Actually STAMP is a descriptive term not specific to any product, and as 
such, cannot be trademarked. There is the BASIC Stamp but there are also 
MicroSTAMP, DOS STAMP, and others. BASIC Stamp is a great little product 
but it has been around almost 15 years now while processor hardware and 
software technology have steadily advanced.

We produce the 32-bit JStamp(r) which executes native Java (3x10e6 byte 
codes per second) and has 512 KBytes SRAM and up to 2048 KBytes flash: 
http://www.jstamp.com  This is the most powerful stamp-sized module, with a 
"real" (open, standardized and full-featured) language on it. For example 
it includes threading, multiple data types including floating point, SPI 
hardware (over 1 Mbit), I2C, and dual UARTs (real hardware UARTs, not 
bit-banged UAR or UAT) at 115 kbaud. Perhaps amazingly, because it is much 
newer technology, JStamp actually uses *less* power than the BASIC Stamp.

There are multiple, conflicting uses of SimmStick(r) so we have 
standardized the most common, and are using and documenting it as JSimm(tm) 
at http://www.jsimm.com -- JSimm is appearing as the expansion bus on our 
new TINI400 module TStik: http://www.tstik.com

We intend the JSimm/SimmStick bus to be our main expansion bus at least for 
the next few years. Our 6-slot JSimm backplane is 100x100 mm which is the 
exact legal size for Mini-Sumo. It also conforms to Euroboard standards and 
fits in thousands of stock enclosures and extrusions.

We also have a new module - JStik - which executes 15-20 million Java byte 
codes per second: http://www.jstik.com and it has a high speed I/O bus 
which can transfer a byte of data faster than every 20 nsec. This bus is 
intended for streaming video/audio, high speed ADC and DAC etc. This is by 
far the most powerful SimmStick-compatible processor available, as far as 
we know.

These systems are proving popular in industry and university robotics where 
they are orders of magnitude more capable than any comparable modules. At 
CMU the annual spring undergraduate robot contest was recently won with a 
JStamp-powered device.

This might help, or maybe just add to the confusion :)

Bruce Boyes

From Bruce:

> We produce the 32-bit JStamp(r) which executes native Java (3x10e6 byte 
> codes per second) and has 512 KBytes SRAM and up to 2048 KBytes flash: 
> http://www.jstamp.com  This is the most powerful stamp-sized module, with a 
> "real" (open, standardized and full-featured) language on it. For example 
> it includes threading, multiple data types including floating point, SPI 
> hardware (over 1 Mbit), I2C, and dual UARTs (real hardware UARTs, not 
> bit-banged UAR or UAT) at 115 kbaud. Perhaps amazingly, because it is much 
> newer technology, JStamp actually uses *less* power than the BASIC Stamp.

I use and *like* this product. My current experimental robot uses the JStamp.

...

> We also have a new module - JStik - which executes 15-20 million Java byte 
> codes per second: http://www.jstik.com and it has a high speed I/O bus 
> which can transfer a byte of data faster than every 20 nsec. This bus is 
> intended for streaming video/audio, high speed ADC and DAC etc. This is by 
> far the most powerful SimmStick-compatible processor available, as far as 
> we know.

I *love* this one, but I munged my backplane power supply, so it's in
the shop for now.

Just a satisfied customer.

Though I *really* want them to put an Ajile 100 (the processor for the JStik)
on a "stamp" with *lots* of RAM. Essentially I want a Java neural net
machine in a very small package.

Have a nice day!
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Hi,

> We produce the 32-bit JStamp(r) which executes native Java (3x10e6 byte
> codes per second) and has 512 KBytes SRAM and up to 2048 KBytes flash:
> http://www.jstamp.com  This is the most powerful stamp-sized module, with
a
> "real" (open, standardized and full-featured) language on it. For example
> it includes threading, multiple data types including floating point, SPI
> hardware (over 1 Mbit), I2C, and dual UARTs (real hardware UARTs, not
> bit-banged UAR or UAT) at 115 kbaud. Perhaps amazingly, because it is much
> newer technology, JStamp actually uses *less* power than the BASIC Stamp.

The SNAP is faster (I have heard) http://www.imsys.se (in a SimmStick alike
form factor 72pin). It also has TCI/IP, 3 UARTS's, 1wire, CAN, I2C etc. and
8Mb DRAM & 2Mb Flash.

/Lars

Java.  Ugh!  I could never understand it - I'm still waiting for the
Visual Basic Stamp! :)

I do however like the proto boards, I think with the connections on the
ends they are a little better than the dontronics boards I am using
currently.

Cheers
Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Jay Newman [mailto:jay@s...] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:47 PM
To: simmstick@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [simmstick] Re: STAMP - there are a lot of others, not just
BASIC

From Bruce:

> We produce the 32-bit JStamp(r) which executes native Java (3x10e6
byte 
> codes per second) and has 512 KBytes SRAM and up to 2048 KBytes flash:

> http://www.jstamp.com  This is the most powerful stamp-sized module,
with a 
> "real" (open, standardized and full-featured) language on it. For
example 
> it includes threading, multiple data types including floating point,
SPI 
> hardware (over 1 Mbit), I2C, and dual UARTs (real hardware UARTs, not 
> bit-banged UAR or UAT) at 115 kbaud. Perhaps amazingly, because it is
much 
> newer technology, JStamp actually uses *less* power than the BASIC
Stamp.

I use and *like* this product. My current experimental robot uses the
JStamp.

...

> We also have a new module - JStik - which executes 15-20 million Java
byte 
> codes per second: http://www.jstik.com and it has a high speed I/O bus

> which can transfer a byte of data faster than every 20 nsec. This bus
is 
> intended for streaming video/audio, high speed ADC and DAC etc. This
is by 
> far the most powerful SimmStick-compatible processor available, as far
as 
> we know.

I *love* this one, but I munged my backplane power supply, so it's in
the shop for now.

Just a satisfied customer.

Though I *really* want them to put an Ajile 100 (the processor for the
JStik)
on a "stamp" with *lots* of RAM. Essentially I want a Java neural net
machine in a very small package.

Have a nice day!
-- 
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http://enerd.ws/~jay/  ! 


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Hi,
I understand your confusion.
AVR and PIC are microcontrollers from different manufacturers, generally
similar each has it's devotees,
I chose AVR mainly because when I started with these things AVR had "flash"
memory, and PIC did not.
There seem to be more users of PIC at hobby level, but that is only my
observation, others may dispute this!
SIMMSTICK is a range of PCB's that conform to an agreed form and pinout which
let people use PIC or AVR micros and get projects up and running either as
ptototype or the finished article for hobbyists!
SIMMSTICK takes all the work out of "Hardware" for beginners, and it is
incredibly cheap I have found nothing to compare, but it does involve
soldering to assemble the boards and interfacing to "the outside world" if
that is required!
With Simmstick and either AVR or PIC installed you write your program in
"Assembler", "C" or "Basic" .
The "STAMP" is a PIC microcontroller preprogrammed with a "Basic Interpreter",
on a small board with it's I/O available.
You program it in the "Stamp Basic"  a dedicated version of basic!.
I have not used STAMP, but they are available from Dick Smith (in Australia),
In all these approaches, you trade cost against simplicity.
They all require a PC and a cable to connect to your "project", and some
software to program whatever chip you have chosen.
If your funds are limited use Simmstick and learn to solder! you will need
basic electronics knowledge too, but you will get help from this list.
The "Dontronics" website will show you everything you need to get started. Don
provided me with hardware, software and good advice when I started.
To avoid dissapointment, if you are an absolute beginner you need ready
assembled hardware programmed with a simple "flash the LEDS" programme.
From there you can modify the program and write it to the chip and watch the
result.
By then you know your "programmer" works,
From there on you write/modify programs and build hardware to suit.
Hope this helps
Good luck
Leon

indeedau wrote:

> since i have never seen any of these things you guys are talking
> about could someone please explain the difference or relationship
> these parts have to each other AVR , STAMP, SIMMSTICK and PIC
>
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Hi Everyone, 

I'm looking at getting a bunch of PCB's made. They'll be about 1/2 as
complex as the DT006. Does anyone know approximately how much this would
cost for an initial run of 20 or 50 or so PCBs? 

Any recommendations for a good place to get them made?

Thanks

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Take a look at ExpressPCB.  They provide CAD tools for schematics and
PCB design, and will give you online quotes depending on the number of
boards, size, complexity, production size etc.

Great service.

Regards

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Liam O'Hagan [mailto:liam@g...] 
Sent: 17 June 2003 07:31
To: simmstick@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [simmstick] PCB Manufacturing


Hi Everyone, 

I'm looking at getting a bunch of PCB's made. They'll be about 1/2 as
complex as the DT006. Does anyone know approximately how much this would
cost for an initial run of 20 or 50 or so PCBs? 

Any recommendations for a good place to get them made?

Thanks

Liam O'Hagan
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GLI Australia
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liam O'Hagan" <liam@g...>
To: <simmstick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:31 AM
Subject: [simmstick] PCB Manufacturing


> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> I'm looking at getting a bunch of PCB's made. They'll be about 1/2 as
> complex as the DT006. Does anyone know approximately how much this would
> cost for an initial run of 20 or 50 or so PCBs? 
> 
> Any recommendations for a good place to get them made?

Olimex is very good: http://www.olimex.com

Leon

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17-Jun-2003 
USB-COMi Single Port USB to RS422/RS485 Serial Adapter 
Based on the FTDI USB Chip. 
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Am Montag, 16. Juni 2003 14:10 schrieb tom667de:
> Hi!
>
> Can anyone point me to some information about the (general) electrical
> data of SIMM modules and SIMM sockets? Or a specification for x86
> systems? I need to know how much current the contacs can carry.
> I like the idea of using SIMM sockets as a cheap connector for
> embedded systems. But I think it's better do rely on specs/datasheets
> when designing custom electronics that drives some pins with more then
> one ampere...
>
> With best regards
> Thorsten Ostermann


Moin !

Solche Informationen sollten sich doch in den Datenblättern der Simm-Buchsen 
finden lassen. Schau doch mal, ob Du ein solches Datenblatt auftreiben 
kannst.
Deine Idee ist ja auch nicht neu, siehe Simm-Sticks.

 mfG,

  Moritz

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MSP430-Bootloader Software

The JStamp is the best one out there IMO... a little too expensive but once
you try it, everything else seems to pale in comparison ;)

the debugging is lightyears above most other systems... in the non stamp
dept. and AVR with Bascom AVR is pretty easy to use. and of course there is
the Basic Stamp simmstick module from Rogue Robotics, which I think
Dontronics has a bunch of.

- Brill Pappin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Proffitt" <rebeltech@c...>
To: <simmstick@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [simmstick] Re: STAMP - there are a lot of others, not just
BASIC


> Java.  Ugh!  I could never understand it - I'm still waiting for the
> Visual Basic Stamp! :)
>
> I do however like the proto boards, I think with the connections on the
> ends they are a little better than the dontronics boards I am using
> currently.
>
> Cheers
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Jay Newman [mailto:jay@s...]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: simmstick@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [simmstick] Re: STAMP - there are a lot of others, not just
> BASIC
>
> From Bruce:
>
> > We produce the 32-bit JStamp(r) which executes native Java (3x10e6
> byte
> > codes per second) and has 512 KBytes SRAM and up to 2048 KBytes flash:
>
> > http://www.jstamp.com  This is the most powerful stamp-sized module,
> with a
> > "real" (open, standardized and full-featured) language on it. For
> example
> > it includes threading, multiple data types including floating point,
> SPI
> > hardware (over 1 Mbit), I2C, and dual UARTs (real hardware UARTs, not
> > bit-banged UAR or UAT) at 115 kbaud. Perhaps amazingly, because it is
> much
> > newer technology, JStamp actually uses *less* power than the BASIC
> Stamp.
>
> I use and *like* this product. My current experimental robot uses the
> JStamp.
>
> ...
>
> > We also have a new module - JStik - which executes 15-20 million Java
> byte
> > codes per second: http://www.jstik.com and it has a high speed I/O bus
>
> > which can transfer a byte of data faster than every 20 nsec. This bus
> is
> > intended for streaming video/audio, high speed ADC and DAC etc. This
> is by
> > far the most powerful SimmStick-compatible processor available, as far
> as
> > we know.
>
> I *love* this one, but I munged my backplane power supply, so it's in
> the shop for now.
>
> Just a satisfied customer.
>
> Though I *really* want them to put an Ajile 100 (the processor for the
> JStik)
> on a "stamp" with *lots* of RAM. Essentially I want a Java neural net
> machine in a very small package.
>
> Have a nice day!
> -- 
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I am working on a PIC based control system project which requires 16 bits of
serial date to be sent and received  over 1000 metres of cable. There may be
up to 10 systems connected along the cable and any one of  them may transmit
and the others will receive it.

Because of the distance involved, it is necessary to transfer the data as an
audio tone over a balanced 2 wire circuit

I have already resolved the issues of handshaking etc. and have designed a
system using DTMF encoders and receivers, which sends 4 words of 4 bits
each. Unfortunately its implementation  requires  too many  PIC I/O pins,
and it seems a more practicable method to use the asynchronous port which is
already implemented on many microcontrollers. Data could be  generated  in
RS232 format at 300 baud ,converted to an audio tone to be sent over the
cable and then converted back to RS232 at the receiving end.

I know that there are modem chips which will do this but they are likely  to
be quite expensive, and probably require a lot of I/O pins from the
microcontroller

I am hoping that someone out there can suggest a simple and inexpensive
method of generating and decoding the audio tones, which has the necessary
frequency accuracy so that all ten systems can stay in tune with each other
  Thanks
       Harry