From support2003 at dontronics.com Thu Oct 9 12:03:02 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Wed Oct 8 21:05:53 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com Message-ID: <3F84B3C6.C028E3D5@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, Our site and email has been down for 3 days. Monday 15:00 to Thursday 8:30 Australian EST it has just come back up, so I am testing to make sure this arm of it works, as it is now on our dontronics.com site. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From rob at usbmicro.com Tue Oct 7 18:11:05 2003 From: rob at usbmicro.com (Rob) Date: Wed Oct 8 22:11:13 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Site In-Reply-To: <3F6F9361.A7916D55@dontronics.com> References: <000201c37e35$e72eb430$8cd247ab@apac.cisco.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20031007171011.00a72db0@pop3.usbmicro.com> The Dontronics site seems to be down. Is everything OK? Something happen? From rob at usbmicro.com Thu Oct 9 12:29:54 2003 From: rob at usbmicro.com (Rob) Date: Thu Oct 9 12:27:01 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com In-Reply-To: <3F84B3C6.C028E3D5@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20031009112700.00a590c8@pop3.usbmicro.com> Don, Things appear to be better, as you can see the list coughed up my message of concern. Addressing the rumors of Dontronics demise: No - it won't be that easy to get rid of you ;-) I hope that you don't have to experience that mess again, Don. Must have been a three-day-headache. Cheers! -Rob At 10/9/2003 11:03 AM +1000, you wrote: >Hi Gang, >Our site and email has been down for 3 days. >Monday 15:00 to Thursday 8:30 Australian EST > >it has just come back up, so I am testing to make sure this arm of it >works, as it is now on our dontronics.com site. > >Don... > >-- >Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html > Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com > >USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html >The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software > > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From support2003 at dontronics.com Fri Oct 10 07:25:28 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Oct 9 16:25:33 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com References: <5.2.0.9.2.20031009112700.00a590c8@pop3.usbmicro.com> Message-ID: <3F85C438.A56D7AB4@dontronics.com> Rob wrote: > > Don, > > Things appear to be better, as you can see the list coughed up my message > of concern. > > Addressing the rumors of Dontronics demise: No - it won't be that easy to > get rid of you ;-) > > I hope that you don't have to experience that mess again, Don. Must have > been a three-day-headache. Hi Rob, and all. Thanks. I had also thought that I had lost this list, however messages started trickling through from it this morning, along with all my test sign ups. I still have to sort out a data base to get a site going. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From mmicire at asrobotics.com Thu Oct 9 17:29:06 2003 From: mmicire at asrobotics.com (Mark Micire) Date: Thu Oct 9 16:29:12 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com In-Reply-To: <3F84B3C6.C028E3D5@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <3AF4F1BE-FA97-11D7-9180-0030656E8CF2@asrobotics.com> Do yo mind if I bother you to ask what happened? Because of your highly complimentary recommendation several weeks ago, we signed up for one of their webhosting and email packages to run along-side our in-house web site. We are currently running the two sites in parallel, but we were waiting to get an idea regarding affordable-hosting's stability and reliability. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time! Talk to you soon, Mark -------------------------------------------------- Mark Micire - President / CEO American Standard Robotics, Inc. 625 11th Avenue North East Saint Petersburg, FL 33701 -1407 Toll Free: (800) 350-5292 Local: (727) 821-7588 Fax: (727) 821-7598 Web: http://www.asrobotics.com "A hacker does for love what others would not do for money." -- /usr/games/fortune On Wednesday, Oct 8, 2003, at 21:03 US/Eastern, Don McKenzie wrote: > Hi Gang, > Our site and email has been down for 3 days. > Monday 15:00 to Thursday 8:30 Australian EST > > it has just come back up, so I am testing to make sure this arm of it > works, as it is now on our dontronics.com site. > > Don... > > -- > Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html > Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com > > USB to RS232 Converter that works > http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html > The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and > Software > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > From support2003 at dontronics.com Fri Oct 10 08:18:28 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Oct 9 17:18:34 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com References: <3AF4F1BE-FA97-11D7-9180-0030656E8CF2@asrobotics.com> Message-ID: <3F85D0A4.6EFEF0C3@dontronics.com> Mark Micire wrote: > > Do yo mind if I bother you to ask what happened? > > Because of your highly complimentary recommendation several weeks ago, > we signed up for one of their webhosting and email packages to run > along-side our in-house web site. We are currently running the two > sites in parallel, but we were waiting to get an idea regarding > affordable-hosting's stability and reliability. > > Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time! > > Talk to you soon, > Mark Sure Mark, They had a hard drive crash. Their backup didn't work. I am trying to get details on this, but they are still under a lot of pressure working out their problems. They got a company in that recovered most of the data from the crashed hard drive, but missed out on the mySQL data bases it appears. http://www.data-recovery-software.com/ It took 2.5 days to get this data. A previous technical manager with the Web Host company, apparently advised them that raid wasn't the way to go with backups, when it appears it is the most commonly used and reliable method. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6558 Needless to say, they took his advice, and he left the company some time ago. I was reasonably pleased up till this point with their services. Submitting a ticket for support was a long winded process, however I have found that if the chat room is manned by a staffer, then I can get results in minutes. Now, we may have to shift servers to get the data base back. This would be the fourth server this year for dontronics.com I have moved because of old systems being outdated, or not providing the features that I require. Now I may have to move because of a corrupted data base. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From radsett at attcanada.ca Thu Oct 9 18:58:23 2003 From: radsett at attcanada.ca (Robert Adsett) Date: Thu Oct 9 17:58:28 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com In-Reply-To: <3F85D0A4.6EFEF0C3@dontronics.com> References: <3AF4F1BE-FA97-11D7-9180-0030656E8CF2@asrobotics.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031009173634.00ade660@pop.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> >Sure Mark, > >They had a hard drive crash. >Their backup didn't work. >I am trying to get details on this, but they are still under a lot of >pressure working out their problems. >They got a company in that recovered most of the data from the crashed >hard drive, but missed out on the mySQL data bases it appears. >http://www.data-recovery-software.com/ >It took 2.5 days to get this data. > >A previous technical manager with the Web Host company, apparently >advised them that raid wasn't the way to go with backups, when it >appears it is the most commonly used and reliable method. >http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6558 >Needless to say, they took his advice, and he left the company some time >ago. Hmm, I'd never considered RAID and backups to be solutions to the same problem. RAID improves reliability and/or speed but doesn't protect against catastrophic failures (flood, fire, someone wielding a sledgehammer). If you lose one disk in a RAID subsystem setup for reliability it can continue running but if you lose a second one you are SOL. A backup on the other hand will protect against catastrophic failures (provided it works of course) but is only as up to date as the last time data was saved to a the backup storage. I'd think in any critical situation you would want both. I wonder if they ever tested their backups? Questions to ask if I need to set something up I guess. Robert From Peter.Collins at unitab.com.au Fri Oct 10 10:19:41 2003 From: Peter.Collins at unitab.com.au (Peter Collins) Date: Thu Oct 9 19:19:50 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Backups Message-ID: <4FCBBCDBF9232241B8D2031F2DD74DCBEFC73E@BRISBANEMAIL1.brisbane.tabq.com> Yes, backups wpuld be a area where a company that is under cost pressure/trying to cut corners/poor planning could make a saving - until a failure occurs and a backup is needed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://thebe.affordablehost.com/pipermail/simmstick_group_dontronics.com/attachments/20031010/f32e9765/attachment.htm From asmallri at hotmail.com Fri Oct 10 16:45:02 2003 From: asmallri at hotmail.com (Andrew Smallridge) Date: Fri Oct 10 03:45:08 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com In-Reply-To: <3F85D0A4.6EFEF0C3@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <000201c38f02$69bbfca0$f6e96840@apac.cisco.com> > A previous technical manager with the Web Host company, > apparently advised them that raid wasn't the way to go with > backups, when it appears it is the most commonly used and > reliable method. > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6558 > Needless to say, they took his advice, and he left the > company some time ago. RAID (depending on the type) does protect you from the type of failure you encountered but the technical manager was correct - raid is not a backup solution. Andrew From support2003 at dontronics.com Fri Oct 10 19:25:26 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Fri Oct 10 04:25:33 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com References: <000201c38f02$69bbfca0$f6e96840@apac.cisco.com> Message-ID: <3F866CF6.EA96E5C7@dontronics.com> Andrew Smallridge wrote: > > > A previous technical manager with the Web Host company, > > apparently advised them that raid wasn't the way to go with > > backups, when it appears it is the most commonly used and > > reliable method. > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6558 > > Needless to say, they took his advice, and he left the > > company some time ago. > > RAID (depending on the type) does protect you from the type of failure > you encountered but the technical manager was correct - raid is not a > backup solution. > > Andrew Yes, I had a bit of a further read through it. I imagine most genuine ISP backups are done to tape or hard drive, and a copy should be kept "off site". For my own personal PC, which runs my business, this is my procedure: All drives are in removable caddies, including my main drive. I ghost my full hard drive to a backup every day. I alternate backup drives every day. So I have a 3 drive system. And regular copies of all new files are done to CD, and kept off site. I made up little links so I can swap master/slave drives easily without removing them from the caddies. Just slip the cover off, and change the link if I need to. I run a small local wireless network, so I have and old PC and Notebook, that a lot of my latest files end up on also. And I hope I then have it covered. :-) I got very paranoid after a drive crash last November. I had it all on CD pretty well, but it was still a mess to re-construct. Don... From tim at leiker.net Sat Oct 11 18:18:23 2003 From: tim at leiker.net (Tim Leiker) Date: Sat Oct 11 18:18:25 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Video board Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011171621.01e47b00@mail.leiker.net> Hello all, If anyone has used one of these boards before and had any trouble getting to run consistently, please let me know what problem you found. My board is very squirrley. Not a consistent pattern to give yet just not quite right. Thanks, Tim Leiker From dvasaru at broadpark.no Sun Oct 12 02:03:59 2003 From: dvasaru at broadpark.no (Dan Vasaru) Date: Sat Oct 11 19:03:57 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Video board In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011171621.01e47b00@mail.leiker.net> Message-ID: <002601c3904b$f4da4cc0$0300000a@dualc2000> Hi Tim My board didn't function at all to begin with, until I realised that the testing program I used (the BASIC one listed at Don's) was running way too fast over the initialization part. It seems that the CPU initializes some time before the OSD chip, and the OSD init was run before the OSD accepted commands. The symptoms were that the board didn't work immediately after powering the system, but worked nicely once I reset the CPU (reset button). So my solution was to add a powerup delay (0.5s) to the initialization routine before initializing the OSD chip. Hope this helps, Dan. > If anyone has used one of these boards before and had any > trouble getting > to run consistently, please let me know what problem you found. > > My board is very squirrley. > > Not a consistent pattern to give yet just not quite right. > > Thanks, From tim at leiker.net Sat Oct 11 19:52:25 2003 From: tim at leiker.net (Tim Leiker) Date: Sat Oct 11 19:52:29 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Problems Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011184624.00b13780@mail.leiker.net> Ok, I resoldered the entire board and cleaned it. Also put on RCA connectors instead of short shielded cables to RCAs. The unit comes up every time, very consistently with two problems. 1) incoming video comes on, goes dark as the OSD characters comes on screen and then turns to a blue background(as in no video). 2) once unit comes up and SIMM message appears and disappears, there are characters on the screen, basically trash characters, never the same amount of characters and usually zeros and flashing clock characters mostly on the right hand part of screen and most, but not all rows. This has done this from first time powered up. Any clues? Thanks, Tim Leiker From tim at leiker.net Sat Oct 11 22:18:46 2003 From: tim at leiker.net (Tim Leiker) Date: Sat Oct 11 22:18:50 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Video board In-Reply-To: <002601c3904b$f4da4cc0$0300000a@dualc2000> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011171621.01e47b00@mail.leiker.net> <002601c3904b$f4da4cc0$0300000a@dualc2000> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011211734.01e526d8@mail.leiker.net> Dan, Not sure I follow you there. It seems the program I have does wait for the OSD chip to initialize. Would you mind sending me what you have. Thanks, Tim At 06:03 PM 10/11/2003, you wrote: >Hi Tim > >My board didn't function at all to begin with, until I realised that the >testing program I used (the BASIC one listed at Don's) was running way >too fast over the initialization part. It seems that the CPU initializes >some time before the OSD chip, and the OSD init was run before the OSD >accepted commands. > >The symptoms were that the board didn't work immediately after powering >the system, but worked nicely once I reset the CPU (reset button). >So my solution was to add a powerup delay (0.5s) to the initialization >routine before initializing the OSD chip. > >Hope this helps, >Dan. > > > If anyone has used one of these boards before and had any > > trouble getting > > to run consistently, please let me know what problem you found. > > > > My board is very squirrley. > > > > Not a consistent pattern to give yet just not quite right. > > > > Thanks, > > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From dvasaru at broadpark.no Sun Oct 12 12:25:33 2003 From: dvasaru at broadpark.no (Dan Vasaru) Date: Sun Oct 12 05:25:32 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Video board In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011211734.01e526d8@mail.leiker.net> Message-ID: <002801c390a2$c9bc04f0$0300000a@dualc2000> Hi Tim, You're right, the code does have an initial wait. I took a second look at the code and the board today, and I realized to my horror that I'd mixed up a AT90S2313-10 with the 4Mhz (AT90S2313-4PC) version. It's probably a small miracle that it worked at all with a 10Mhz crystal. I'll substitute the correct part and keep you updated on how it behaves. Dan PS. I too had flashing/garbage characters on screen. > Not sure I follow you there. > It seems the program I have does wait for the OSD chip to initialize. > Would you mind sending me what you have. > > Thanks, > > Tim From tim at leiker.net Sun Oct 12 10:37:33 2003 From: tim at leiker.net (Tim Leiker) Date: Sun Oct 12 10:37:39 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Video board In-Reply-To: <002801c390a2$c9bc04f0$0300000a@dualc2000> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011211734.01e526d8@mail.leiker.net> <002801c390a2$c9bc04f0$0300000a@dualc2000> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031012093646.01ddd1a0@mail.leiker.net> Dan, That is pretty amazing the thing worked at 4 MHz. See other message please. Tim At 04:25 AM 10/12/2003, you wrote: >Hi Tim, > >You're right, the code does have an initial wait. >I took a second look at the code and the board today, and I realized to >my horror that I'd mixed up a AT90S2313-10 with the 4Mhz (AT90S2313-4PC) >version. >It's probably a small miracle that it worked at all with a 10Mhz >crystal. I'll substitute the correct part and keep you updated on how it >behaves. > >Dan >PS. I too had flashing/garbage characters on screen. > > > Not sure I follow you there. > > It seems the program I have does wait for the OSD chip to initialize. > > Would you mind sending me what you have. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim > > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From dvasaru at broadpark.no Sun Oct 12 21:47:08 2003 From: dvasaru at broadpark.no (Dan Vasaru) Date: Sun Oct 12 14:47:14 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Problems In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011184624.00b13780@mail.leiker.net> Message-ID: <002d01c390f1$3d366940$0300000a@dualc2000> Tim, I have good news ! I traced the failure to clear screen with the OSD chip to a short CSN wait. According to the datasheet, CSN must be low, respectively high, for at least 4*zoom_factor usecs. The clear_osd routine in vidavr.bas only allowed for 1 usec, which is outside the chip specification. So here's a new clear_osd that works for me, leaving a perfectly clean background: Clear_osd: Gosub Home For Row_count = 0 To 10 Set Osd_clk Reset Osd_csn Data_byte = Row_count 'Set pointer to next row Gosub Send_osd_byte Data_byte = &B00000000 Gosub Send_osd_byte Set Osd_csn 'End 16 bit send Set Osd_clk Data_byte = &H0B 'Send space Gosub Send_osd_character Set Osd_csn 'End 16 bit send Set Osd_clk For Column_count = 1 To 28 'Clock in row of spaces Waitus 4 Reset Osd_csn ' must stay reset for 4*zoom_factor usecs Waitus 4 Set Osd_csn ' must stay set for 4*zoom_factor usecs Next Waitus 4 Next Gosub Home Return If you want to see all available characters, you can also replace main loop with: Rx = 0 'Enable Interrupts Do Rx = Rx + 1 If Rx = 128 Then Rx = 0 End If Data_byte = Rx Gosub Send_osd_character Row_pos = Row_pos + 1 If Row_pos > 27 Then Row_pos = 0 Column_pos = Column_pos + 1 If Column_pos > 10 Then Column_pos = 0 End If Waitms 200 Loop This will fill your screen with all the available ROM fonts. /dan > -----Original Message----- > From: SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com > [mailto:SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com] On Behalf Of > Tim Leiker > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 1:52 AM > To: SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Problems > > > Ok, > > I resoldered the entire board and cleaned it. Also put on > RCA connectors > instead of short shielded cables to RCAs. > > The unit comes up every time, very consistently with two problems. > > 1) incoming video comes on, goes dark as the OSD characters comes on > screen and then turns to a blue background(as in no video). > > 2) once unit comes up and SIMM message appears and > disappears, there are > characters on the screen, basically trash characters, never > the same amount > of characters and usually zeros and flashing clock characters > mostly on the > right hand part of screen and most, but not all rows. This > has done this > from first time powered up. > > Any clues? > > Thanks, > > Tim Leiker > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmsti> ck_group_dontronics.com > From tim at leiker.net Sun Oct 12 15:18:09 2003 From: tim at leiker.net (Tim Leiker) Date: Sun Oct 12 15:18:11 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Problems In-Reply-To: <002d01c390f1$3d366940$0300000a@dualc2000> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20031011184624.00b13780@mail.leiker.net> <002d01c390f1$3d366940$0300000a@dualc2000> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031012141444.01d8e608@mail.leiker.net> Dan, Cool, good work. I will give it a try. I take it you are using this in the PAL format. I am using it in the NTSC format and am having genlock problems. I have had to change a few components to make things better but I think that the OSD chip crystal is not quite on freq. to give me good genlock which is causing my other problem that i wrote about. Will let you know how your code works. Thanks, Tim At 01:47 PM 10/12/2003, you wrote: >Tim, > >I have good news ! I traced the failure to clear screen with the OSD >chip to a short CSN wait. > >According to the datasheet, CSN must be low, respectively high, for at >least >4*zoom_factor usecs. The clear_osd routine in vidavr.bas only allowed >for 1 usec, which is outside the chip specification. > >So here's a new clear_osd that works for me, leaving a perfectly clean >background: > >Clear_osd: > Gosub Home > For Row_count = 0 To 10 > Set Osd_clk > Reset Osd_csn > Data_byte = Row_count 'Set pointer >to next row > Gosub Send_osd_byte > Data_byte = &B00000000 > Gosub Send_osd_byte > Set Osd_csn 'End 16 bit >send > Set Osd_clk > > Data_byte = &H0B 'Send space > Gosub Send_osd_character > Set Osd_csn 'End 16 bit >send > Set Osd_clk > For Column_count = 1 To 28 'Clock in >row of spaces > Waitus 4 > Reset Osd_csn ' must stay reset for 4*zoom_factor usecs > Waitus 4 > Set Osd_csn ' must stay set for 4*zoom_factor usecs > Next > Waitus 4 > Next > Gosub Home >Return > > >If you want to see all available characters, you can also replace main >loop with: > > Rx = 0 > 'Enable Interrupts > Do > Rx = Rx + 1 > If Rx = 128 Then > Rx = 0 > End If > Data_byte = Rx > Gosub Send_osd_character > Row_pos = Row_pos + 1 > If Row_pos > 27 Then > Row_pos = 0 > Column_pos = Column_pos + 1 > If Column_pos > 10 Then Column_pos = 0 > End If > Waitms 200 > Loop > > >This will fill your screen with all the available ROM fonts. > >/dan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com > > [mailto:SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com] On Behalf Of > > Tim Leiker > > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 1:52 AM > > To: SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > > Subject: [SimmStick_Group] DT108 Problems > > > > > > Ok, > > > > I resoldered the entire board and cleaned it. Also put on > > RCA connectors > > instead of short shielded cables to RCAs. > > > > The unit comes up every time, very consistently with two problems. > > > > 1) incoming video comes on, goes dark as the OSD characters comes on > > screen and then turns to a blue background(as in no video). > > > > 2) once unit comes up and SIMM message appears and > > disappears, there are > > characters on the screen, basically trash characters, never > > the same amount > > of characters and usually zeros and flashing clock characters > > mostly on the > > right hand part of screen and most, but not all rows. This > > has done this > > from first time powered up. > > > > Any clues? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim Leiker > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SimmStick_Group mailing list > > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmsti> >ck_group_dontronics.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From support2003 at dontronics.com Tue Oct 14 07:23:16 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Mon Oct 13 16:23:25 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Re: [Fwd: Dontronics Sales - via contact page] References: <3F8A737C.EF5549AE@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <3F8B09B4.A8FE6B42@dontronics.com> Hi Paul, I have had limited success in the past helping others in this fashion, however I have found that the members of my SimmStick group are generally responsive, so I have posted to this group, and I'll ask any interested party to contact you directly. good luck. Cheers Don... ===================================== > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Dontronics Sales - via contact page > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 05:01:03 -0400 > From: Paul Andreasen > To: Sales2003@dontronics.com > > I am in need of someone to help with a PIC programming project (Or > STAMP). I know exactly nothing about the coding for them, but am capable > of dsigning the electrical interface part (except for LCD readout). Here > is essentially what I need. > > Procedures to be controlled/completed by PIC (or STAMP) microprocessor > circuit. > > OFF of PIC circuit: > 1. Bill Acceptor receives and decodes bill for denomination.  sends out > a 12v/50mS pulse for each dollar input directly to countdown timer > circuit or through encoding board for use by countdown timer circuit. > > ON PIC circuit: > 2. Default for countdown timer is zero count. Countdown timer circuit > monitors Bill Acceptor output for pulses. Bill Acceptor pulses feed > timer circuit, which keeps count of pulses received or converts count to > other storable code representing 4 minutes of time per dollar pulse > received. > > 3. Countdown timer circuit monitors for additional input pulses prior to > zero count on timer. If received prior to zero count status, these > pulses update total count or code of remaining time, with appropriate > time from additional pulses received. If received after zero count, > timer is reinitialized for countdown from time per dollar input. > > 4. Countdown timer circuit either controls countdown circuit built into > processor board, or send signals to additional external countdown timer > circuitry to accomplish item #3, which is also usable by and displayed > on external (re-locatable) LCD timer module for customer monitoring of > time remaining to them. > > 5. When countdown timer circuit initiates with first pulses from Bill > Acceptor, external input/output control circuit is sent pos/neg or > encoded signal for control circuit turn on state. This remains unchanged > until, or unless, countdown timer reaches zero, in which case countdown > timer circuit sends a different or opposing pos/neg/encoded signal to > input/output control circuit to signal control circuit turn off state, > and reinitializes countdown timer circuit to default zero count. > > Could you recommend someone that could do this? Hopefully at not too > great a cost, but... Given any electrical requirements to go with it, I > can do most the rest. > Thanks > Paul Andreasen > Lompoc, CA > K1JAN -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From geoduo at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 14 13:11:40 2003 From: geoduo at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?frank=20roos?=) Date: Tue Oct 14 07:11:45 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] remove this address from this list Message-ID: <20031014111140.98919.qmail@web86208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Unsubscripe geoduo@yahoo.co.uk from this list. Frank ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From support2003 at dontronics.com Fri Oct 17 14:07:17 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Oct 16 23:07:27 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] SimmStick Video Message-ID: <3F8F5CE5.DA06E3BF@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, I think I have an email problem with Lionel Theunissen, the designer of the SimmStick Video, so I am sending this via the address I have on Lionel, and also the SimmStick group. If you can contact me thanks Lionel. I would like to let you respond first. If I don't hear from you in a couple of days, then I'll throw it open to the group. I know doing this has provided good results in the past I have an old friend from a previous life (almost it seems) :-) , that needs some work done. Below is his email to me: If Lionel doesn't get back, or isn't interested for any reason, I'll put Frank's email address on the list, and any interested part can contact Frank directly. Cheers Don... =================================== Hi Don, My requirements are for a SMTPE timecode reader which will superimpose the time code on five separate video signals. The Contest 2000 Project SSAU2006 looks as though it will do the job by driving five separate Simmstick video cards simultaneously. Being old and shaky and unable to learn new tricks I need someone who can take this project on for me for a price. Best regards, Frank Verstrepen Provideo -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From support2003 at dontronics.com Sun Oct 19 11:43:16 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 18 20:43:47 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] AT89C2051/4051 project board Message-ID: <3F91DE24.3818ED2B@dontronics.com> 19-Oct-2003 EXP-30: Unique Atmel AT89C2051/4051 project board that greatly simplifies and speeds development of microcontroller projects and offers a very professional looking instrument case for the completed project. http://www.dontronics.com/microtronz.html -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From support2003 at dontronics.com Mon Oct 20 20:19:30 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Mon Oct 20 05:19:38 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Re: SimmStick Video References: <3F8F5CE5.DA06E3BF@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <3F93A8A2.1F3DC7D9@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, as I haven't heard back from Lionel, as I suggested, here is Frank's email Address: frank@provideo.net.au please contact him directly if you are able to assist. Don... Don McKenzie wrote: > > Hi Gang, > I think I have an email problem with Lionel Theunissen, the designer of > the SimmStick Video, so I am sending this via the address I have on > Lionel, and also the SimmStick group. > > If you can contact me thanks Lionel. I would like to let you respond > first. > If I don't hear from you in a couple of days, then I'll throw it open to > the group. > I know doing this has provided good results in the past > > I have an old friend from a previous life (almost it seems) :-) , that > needs some work done. > > Below is his email to me: > If Lionel doesn't get back, or isn't interested for any reason, I'll put > Frank's email address on the list, and any interested part can contact > Frank directly. > > Cheers Don... > > =================================== > > Hi Don, > > My requirements are for a SMTPE timecode reader which will superimpose > the time code on five separate video signals. > > The Contest 2000 Project SSAU2006 looks as though it will do the job by > driving five separate Simmstick video cards simultaneously. > > Being old and shaky and unable to learn new tricks I need someone who > can take this project on for me for a price. > > Best regards, > > Frank Verstrepen > Provideo > > -- > Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html > Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com > > USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html > The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From support2003 at dontronics.com Thu Oct 23 09:06:00 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Wed Oct 22 18:06:08 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moving again Message-ID: <3F96FF48.C253C4A4@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, I find this hard to believe myself, but dontronics.com is moving to a 4th site this year. We went from prowebsite.com to affordablehost.com (AH), because pro was getting very dated and pricey, and we needed the new features/software to survive and expand. AH was upgrading all of their accounts, adding new features, new prices, and advised us to move onto their new system, just after we settled in, so we went from carme to the thebe server, as we felt we would be ahead of the game this time. thebe crashed about 2 weeks ago, and the restore was very ugly, so we have been pushed onto helene, and are currently migrating our sites and data bases across. They will shut thebe down eventually, and start with it afresh. Which brings me to the reason for this message. (Finally ) :-) This list uses mailman. I can't for the life of me find a way to shift the members list and archives easily. I now have AH support looking at the problem. The way I see it worst case, I may lose the archives, and need to grab the members list from an html page and edit it. I will also need to change ' at ' to '@', etc along the way to get the members across. I will lose all members privacy settings. I'll send out a message just before I shift the domain, and hopefully just after, to let you know that you may need to check your preferences. At least it has remained spam and yahoo ad free. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From n1ltv at hotmail.com Thu Oct 23 00:28:07 2003 From: n1ltv at hotmail.com (Hank Riley) Date: Wed Oct 22 23:28:15 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moving again Message-ID: >The way I see it worst case, I may lose the archives, and need to grab >the members list from an html page and edit it. I will also need to >change ' at ' to '@', etc along the way to get the members across. Don, If it's any help, I've just done the above process for you and the result is a neat text file of valid email addresses. Will send you that separately. Hank _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From support2003 at dontronics.com Thu Oct 23 14:56:58 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Wed Oct 22 23:57:08 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moving again References: Message-ID: <3F97518A.FDB7137D@dontronics.com> Hank Riley wrote: > > >The way I see it worst case, I may lose the archives, and need to grab > >the members list from an html page and edit it. I will also need to > >change ' at ' to '@', etc along the way to get the members across. > > Don, > > If it's any help, I've just done the above process for you and the result is > a neat text file of valid email addresses. Will send you that separately. > > Hank Thanks Hank, yes I got it. I'm still hoping that AH will be able to handle it and keep everyones preferences, etc. They have put it in the hands of their, well, this is what they say: "I'm going to move this ticket to one of our Senior Support staff, for further assistance." Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From support2003 at dontronics.com Sat Oct 25 15:33:07 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 25 00:33:53 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moved again. Message-ID: <3F99FD03.5BE33C2F@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, this is a test message from the new server, please ignore for now. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From support2003 at dontronics.com Sun Oct 26 08:06:25 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 25 17:07:10 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moved Message-ID: <3F9AE5D1.DC08A675@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, After a lot of pushing, I managed to get this mailing list members and archives shifted intact from one server to the other, so all is well, and the move was transparent. I would like to thank the many people that offered to assist me, however it was good that it wasn't required, but nice to know there is always a helping hand there. Sunday is for resting isn't it? I may do just that today. The US Indy 300 car race is on TV from the Gold Coast QLD, so I may just have a little look at that. :-) Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From bigmik at keypoint.com.au Sun Oct 26 09:50:13 2003 From: bigmik at keypoint.com.au (Mick Gulovsen) Date: Sat Oct 25 18:50:14 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moved In-Reply-To: <3F9AE5D1.DC08A675@dontronics.com> References: <3F9AE5D1.DC08A675@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <3F9AFE25.60505@keypoint.com.au> Gday DooDoo, I have just seen the worst crowd ever at Cocks Plate (they said 31000 but i think closer to 20000) they charged $50 per head to get it the funken gate and there is no doubt people avoided it like the plague.. for some strange reason even the members were less than usual.. I crossed from members to control in about 1 min where as in past years it could take 20. Cya PS I am fooked... too many long hrs and old legs are about to fall off. Mikoo From bigmik at keypoint.com.au Sun Oct 26 09:57:43 2003 From: bigmik at keypoint.com.au (Mick Gulovsen) Date: Sat Oct 25 18:57:45 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moved In-Reply-To: <3F9AFE25.60505@keypoint.com.au> References: <3F9AE5D1.DC08A675@dontronics.com> <3F9AFE25.60505@keypoint.com.au> Message-ID: <3F9AFFE7.3080401@keypoint.com.au> Gday All, Oops Sorry, I sent a private email to Don (by reply to his on the list) and it went to the list... Once again apols for that.. At least I didnt swear too bad. =8-) Cya all Mick From support2003 at dontronics.com Sun Oct 26 10:18:56 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 25 19:19:39 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] dontronics.com moved References: <3F9AE5D1.DC08A675@dontronics.com> <3F9AFE25.60505@keypoint.com.au> <3F9AFFE7.3080401@keypoint.com.au> Message-ID: <3F9B04E0.361C35AF@dontronics.com> Mick Gulovsen wrote: > > Gday All, > > Oops Sorry, > > I sent a private email to Don (by reply to his on the list) and it went > to the list... > > Once again apols for that.. At least I didnt swear too bad. I was in a computer job, tied up with the racing game for 25 years (before I retired), and I knew Mick before he started in the game also. I dragged him across to it from General Motors. Sounds like Mick didn't have a good day. :-) My last 3 weeks have been a bit like that Mick, but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel, and I don't think it's the train coming. I couldn't count the times I thought I was replying to an individual and sent it off to a group. Just as well you didn't swear :-) OH, and thanks for testing the new server for me. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From leon_heller at hotmail.com Sun Oct 26 11:28:20 2003 From: leon_heller at hotmail.com (Leon Heller) Date: Sun Oct 26 06:28:26 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU Message-ID: I recently got interested in the new Philips LPC2000 family of ARM MCUs, and am using the LPC2104 in a couple of designs. The chips are quite cheap - about $9 each (250 off). I've designed a simple prototyping PCB for these chips, and have built the gcc toolchain for the ARM using the latest sources, running under Cygwin. Details are here: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html I was wondering if there was any mileage in developing a SimmStick for this chip. My MSP430 SimmStick didn't attract much interest, perhaps a 32-bit ARM MCU running at 60 MHz might prove more popular. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Tel: +44 1424 423947 Email: aqzf13 at dsl dot pipex dot com WWW: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From peter.homann at adacel.com Mon Oct 27 10:10:21 2003 From: peter.homann at adacel.com (Peter Homann) Date: Sun Oct 26 18:10:25 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Leon, I like the look of the Philips processor. But, I'm dying to do some work with the MSP430 and will be ready in a few months. I'm also surprised that more people arn't using it at the hobby level. It's a great little chip. I'm not surprised you are using Olimex for your boards. I've been using them for about 18 months now for my Turbotaig board. http://people.smartchat.net.au/~homann/Turbotaig.htm Their service is excellent and there value for money is unbeatable. Good luck. Peter Homann mailto:Peter.Homann@adacel.com Adacel Technologies Limited, 250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA http://www.adacel.com Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960 Mobile 0421-601 665 > -----Original Message----- > From: SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com > [mailto:SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com]On Behalf Of Leon Heller > Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2003 10:28 PM > To: SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU > > > I recently got interested in the new Philips LPC2000 family of > ARM MCUs, and > am using the LPC2104 in a couple of designs. The chips are quite cheap - > about $9 each (250 off). > > I've designed a simple prototyping PCB for these chips, and have > built the > gcc toolchain for the ARM using the latest sources, running under Cygwin. > Details are here: > > http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html > > I was wondering if there was any mileage in developing a > SimmStick for this > chip. My MSP430 SimmStick didn't attract much interest, perhaps a > 32-bit ARM > MCU running at 60 MHz might prove more popular. > > Leon > -- > Leon Heller, G1HSM Tel: +44 1424 423947 > Email: aqzf13 at dsl dot pipex dot com > WWW: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone > http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > From radsett at attcanada.ca Sun Oct 26 18:46:20 2003 From: radsett at attcanada.ca (Robert Adsett) Date: Sun Oct 26 18:46:23 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031026184544.00ae1370@pop.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> At 11:28 AM 10/26/03 +0000, you wrote: I recently got interested in the new Philips LPC2000 family of ARM MCUs, and am using the LPC2104 in a couple of designs. The chips are quite cheap - about $9 each (250 off). I've designed a simple prototyping PCB for these chips, and have built the gcc toolchain for the ARM using the latest sources, running under Cygwin. Details are here: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html I was wondering if there was any mileage in developing a SimmStick for this chip. My MSP430 SimmStick didn't attract much interest, perhaps a 32-bit ARM MCU running at 60 MHz might prove more popular. I can see we are think along the same lines :). I am already doing up such a SIMM Stick. The project I was doing it for has fallen through but I should have the first prototype boards here in a couple of days. Robert Anyone interested in the pinout? From support2003 at dontronics.com Mon Oct 27 12:00:06 2003 From: support2003 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sun Oct 26 20:00:52 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU References: <5.1.0.14.0.20031026184544.00ae1370@pop.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <3F9C6E16.7D381CF7@dontronics.com> Robert Adsett wrote: > I can see we are think along the same lines :). I am already doing up such > a SIMM Stick. The project I was doing it for has fallen through but I > should have the first prototype boards here in a couple of days. > > Robert > > Anyone interested in the pinout? Of course, I'm interested Robert, and I'll post it to the SimmStick specs pages, along with any links when you are ready. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-mail: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html Home Page: http://www.dontronics.com USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html The World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR & PICmicro Hardware and Software From radsett at attcanada.ca Sun Oct 26 23:46:46 2003 From: radsett at attcanada.ca (Robert Adsett) Date: Sun Oct 26 23:46:47 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU In-Reply-To: <3F9C6E16.7D381CF7@dontronics.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20031026184544.00ae1370@pop.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031026220945.00ae6380@pop.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> At 12:00 PM 10/27/03 +1100, you wrote: >Robert Adsett wrote: > > > I can see we are think along the same lines :). I am already doing up such > > a SIMM Stick. The project I was doing it for has fallen through but I > > should have the first prototype boards here in a couple of days. > > > > Robert > > > > Anyone interested in the pinout? > >Of course, I'm interested Robert, and I'll post it to the SimmStick >specs pages, along with any links when you are ready. > >Don... OK, call this a Rev 0 pinout. I'll work up a better one as soon as the board is tested and verified. 1'st column is the MCU's port pin number, the second is the SIMMStick pin number, the third is the assigned SIMMStick Function, the fourth is the first alternate MCU function and the fifth is the second alternate MCU pin function. MCU, SS#, SSFn, AltFn1, AltFn2 P0.0, 13, SO, PWM1, P0.1, 12, SI, PWM3, P0.2, 10, SCL, CAP0.0, P0.3, 10, SDA, MAT0.0, P0.4, 22, SCK/D7, CAP0.1, P0.5, 21, MISO/D6, MAT0.1, P0.6, 20, MOSI/D5, CAP0.2, P0.7, 1, A1, SSEL, PWM2 P0.8, 2, A2, TxD1, PWM4 P0.9, 3, A3, RxD1, PWM6 P0.10, 5, A4, RTS1, CAP1.0 P0.11, 6, A5, CTS1, CAP1.1 P0.12, 15, D0, DSR1, MAT1.0 P0.13, 16, D1, DTR1, MAT1.1 P0.14, 14, A6, DCD1, EINT1 P0.15, 17, D2, RI1, EINT2 P0.16, --, --, EINT0, MAT0.2 P0.17, 30, D15, CAP1.2, TRST* P0.18, 24, D9, CAP1.3, TMS* P0.19, 18, D3, MAT1.2, TCK* P0.20, 19, D4, MAT1.3, TDI* P0.21, 23, D8, PWM5, TDD* P0.22, 25, D10, TraceClk*, P0.23, 26, D11, PipeStat0*, P0.24, 27, D12, PipeStat1*, P0.25, 28, D13, PipeStat2*, P0.26, 29, D14, TraceSync*, P0.27, --, --, TracePkt0*, TRST* P0.28, --, --, TracePkt1*, TMS* P0.29, --, --, TracePkt2*, TCK* P0.30, --, --, TracePkt3*, TDI* P0.31, --, --, Extin0*, TDO* Functions with a * are related to debugging in some fashion. They are used either for a JTAG interface or the ETM (Embedded Trace Module) interface. This board will have a JTAG connector on it and at least have the pinout for the ETM connector. MATX.X refers to a match function, CAPX.X refers to a capture function. A few notes on why some of the pins are assigned as they are. The first ones I assigned are those that already are assigned in the SIMM spec, that deals with IIC, SPI and primary serial lines. Next I reserved the high speed debugging lines as the last to be assigned since they would be most sensitive to extra trace lengths and if left over would be best left to dedicated lines. Next was A1-A6, the 3 most flexible PWM's were placed there. The rest was more or less placed as convenient. Since the MCU has 32 I/O pins (and they are all capable of basic I/O), that leaves 6 pins of the micro unused. Five of them do double (triple?) duty as high speed lines on the ETM and secondary JTAG interface and so I left them dedicated to that task. The sixth (P0.16) I've reserved to work with P0.17 on D15 as a 1-wire interface (that will take some additional SW). Oh, and finally the MCU is 3.3V I/O (5V tolerant) with a 1.8V core. The board has 5V, 3.3V and 1.8V power supplies and power monitoring circuitry on all 3 power supplies as well as a /reset input to the SIMMStick bus. I've tried to distribute the functionality rationally. Comments welcome. Robert I'm planning a second variant that removes the debug connectors and brings all the I/O out in some fashion. From leon_heller at hotmail.com Mon Oct 27 06:47:54 2003 From: leon_heller at hotmail.com (Leon Heller) Date: Mon Oct 27 01:48:00 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU Message-ID: >From: "Peter Homann" >Reply-To: SimmStick Group >To: "SimmStick Group" >Subject: RE: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU >Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:10:21 +1100 > >Hi Leon, > >I like the look of the Philips processor. But, I'm dying to do some work >with the MSP430 and will be ready in a few months. I'm also surprised that >more people arn't using it at the hobby level. It's a great little chip. Hobbyists are probably put off the MSP430 by its only being available in SM, not being 5V compatible and its complexity. On the positive side, they are 16-bits,very cheap, incredibly low-power and quite fast. Also, TI gives away free samples, the tools are free, and Olimex sells a very cheap FET (JTAG I/F for programming and debugging) and a wide range of cheap boards. > >I'm not surprised you are using Olimex for your boards. I've been using >them >for about 18 months now for my Turbotaig board. >http://people.smartchat.net.au/~homann/Turbotaig.htm Their service is >excellent and there value for money is unbeatable. Their boards aren't top quality, but their prices are very good. I also use PCB-Pool. They are more expensive, but do 6 mil tracks and 0.3 mm holes as standard on both double-sided and 4-layer boards and their boards are very high quality. They don't actually make the boards, they panellise several jobs and then get them made by their suppliers. I've got a Taig lathe. Don't use it much, though. Leon _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From leon_heller at hotmail.com Mon Oct 27 07:07:32 2003 From: leon_heller at hotmail.com (Leon Heller) Date: Mon Oct 27 02:07:39 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU Message-ID: >From: Robert Adsett >Reply-To: SimmStick Group >To: SimmStick Group >Subject: Re: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU >Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:46:46 -0500 > >At 12:00 PM 10/27/03 +1100, you wrote: >>Robert Adsett wrote: >> >> > I can see we are think along the same lines :). I am already doing up >>such >> > a SIMM Stick. The project I was doing it for has fallen through but I >> > should have the first prototype boards here in a couple of days. [deleted] I don't think I'll bother, then. 8-) It looks fine,it's more comprehensive than I was thinking of doing. I'll see if I can make my GNU cross-development software binaries available, packaged up for easy installation. I got gcc built yesterday; the output is working OK with the GDB debugger, so everything seems to be working properly. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Tel: +44 1424 423947 Email: aqzf13 at dsl dot pipex dot com WWW: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From alfkatz at ieee.org Mon Oct 27 19:03:51 2003 From: alfkatz at ieee.org (Alf Katz) Date: Mon Oct 27 03:03:55 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Philips LPC210x ARM MCU References: Message-ID: <002301c39c60$dc9f80a0$0100a8c0@co3011876a> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Heller" > > Hobbyists are probably put off the MSP430 by its only being available in SM, > not being 5V compatible and its complexity. On the positive side, they are > 16-bits,very cheap, incredibly low-power and quite fast. Also, TI gives away > free samples, the tools are free, and Olimex sells a very cheap FET (JTAG > I/F for programming and debugging) and a wide range of cheap boards. > I agree with most of what you say Leon, particularly the PITA of not being 5V friendly, but having used the MSP430, I found it quite simple to use. Conversely, I found it as slow as a wet week, at an average of a bit over 4 cycles ( 400ns) per instruction. For the stuff I mostly do, where 16 bits is really no help, I find an AVR of similar resources significantly faster, doubly so if you have to fake an address/data bus for access to external memory or peripherals. Cheers, Alf alfkatz@remove.the.obvious.ieee.org www.micromagic.net.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003 From info at baltic-microsolutions.de Tue Oct 28 12:27:07 2003 From: info at baltic-microsolutions.de (Moritz von Buttlar) Date: Tue Oct 28 05:28:11 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] PCB basis material Message-ID: <200310281227.07574.info@baltic-microsolutions.de> Hi ! I'm looking for 1.35mm/0.0531" FR4 PCB basis material (one side copper) for simmstick prototyping. Does anybody have an idea where I could get it ? It seems to be rather uncommon, at least here in Germany. We have 0.8,1,1.5mm... I can use 1.5mm with my simm sockets, but it takes quite some force to plug them in. After some time it destroys the sockets. Moritz From leon_heller at hotmail.com Tue Oct 28 11:01:54 2003 From: leon_heller at hotmail.com (Leon Heller) Date: Tue Oct 28 06:02:01 2003 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] PCB basis material References: <200310281227.07574.info@baltic-microsolutions.de> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moritz von Buttlar" To: "SimmStick Group" Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: [SimmStick_Group] PCB basis material > > Hi ! > > I'm looking for 1.35mm/0.0531" FR4 PCB basis material (one side copper) for > simmstick prototyping. Does anybody have an idea where I could get it ? > It seems to be rather uncommon, at least here in Germany. We have > 0.8,1,1.5mm... I can use 1.5mm with my simm sockets, but it takes quite some > force to plug them in. After some time it destroys the sockets. I've had the same problem. For my prototypes I use ordinary FR4 and attach the PCB to a DT208 adaptor. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Email: aqzf13@dsl.pipex.com http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller