From alxx at ihug.com.au Thu Feb 5 01:56:00 2004 From: alxx at ihug.com.au (Alex Gibson) Date: Wed Feb 4 09:54:31 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] CircuitCellar Avr design comp Message-ID: <40210800.4040704@ihug.com.au> Circuit Cellar is running a design contest for Atmel avr chips. http://www.circuitcellar.com/avr2004/ Giving a isp programmer (worth around US$30) and a couple of sample chips for free. Alex From aufempen at dyson.brisnet.org.au Wed Feb 4 18:54:22 2004 From: aufempen at dyson.brisnet.org.au (aufempen@dyson.brisnet.org.au) Date: Wed Feb 4 11:54:32 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] HELLO Message-ID: The message cannot be represented in 7-bit ASCII encoding and has been sent as a binary attachment. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: otuixt.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 22794 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://helene.affordablehost.com/pipermail/simmstick_group_dontronics.com/attachments/20040204/6d1a1e0d/otuixt-0001.obj From alfkatz at ieee.org Thu Feb 5 19:01:00 2004 From: alfkatz at ieee.org (Alf Katz) Date: Thu Feb 5 03:01:01 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] HELLO apparently contains MY_DOOM virus, be careful References: Message-ID: <004b01c3ebbe$31f77380$0100a8c0@co3011876a> Cheers. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 30/01/2004 From support2004 at dontronics.com Thu Feb 5 19:38:00 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Feb 5 03:38:07 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] HELLO apparently contains MY_DOOM virus, be careful References: <004b01c3ebbe$31f77380$0100a8c0@co3011876a> Message-ID: <402200E8.9F9072C9@dontronics.com> Alf Katz wrote: > > Cheers. I just got some crazy list bounces. did you post this message Alf, or was it auto sent by an unknown? Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From alfkatz at ieee.org Thu Feb 5 19:49:27 2004 From: alfkatz at ieee.org (Alf Katz) Date: Thu Feb 5 03:49:29 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] HELLO apparently contains MY_DOOM virus, be careful References: <004b01c3ebbe$31f77380$0100a8c0@co3011876a> <402200E8.9F9072C9@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <001a01c3ebc4$f6fd7930$0100a8c0@co3011876a> Yepp, Don, I posted the warning message (not the original which in my mailbox appears immediately below my post, with an apparent - probably spoofed - return address of aufempen.brisnet.com.au). The original came into my in tray filtered by my ieee forwarder, with the warning that the original message contained the MYDOOM virus/worm. Cheers Alf Katz alfkatz@remove.the.obvious.ieee.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 30/01/2004 From support2004 at dontronics.com Thu Feb 5 19:57:39 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Feb 5 03:57:48 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] HELLO apparently contains MY_DOOM virus, be careful References: <004b01c3ebbe$31f77380$0100a8c0@co3011876a> <402200E8.9F9072C9@dontronics.com> <001a01c3ebc4$f6fd7930$0100a8c0@co3011876a> Message-ID: <40220583.A9427DA8@dontronics.com> Alf Katz wrote: > > Yepp, Don, I posted the warning message (not the original which in my > mailbox appears immediately below my post, with an apparent - probably > spoofed - return address of aufempen.brisnet.com.au). The original came > into my in tray filtered by my ieee forwarder, with the warning that the > original message contained the MYDOOM virus/worm. > > Cheers > Alf Katz > alfkatz@remove.the.obvious.ieee.org OK thanks Alf, I got two MD viruses via an email address I only gave to my ozefax.com electronic fax service. I questioned them about it, and they found a notebook on their network was sending out the virus. they thanked me for the feedback, and fixed the problem. MD must be really driving people crazy right now. I have only seen a handful of them. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From support2004 at dontronics.com Fri Feb 6 18:13:32 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Fri Feb 6 02:13:49 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric Message-ID: <40233E9C.A762D41E@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, Here is a new concept of modular micro/peripheral construction that should be of interest to the members of this group. It is the brainchild of Brenton O'Brien of Adelaide South Australia, who has been developing the system over the last 3 years. This became a full time job for him during the last 12 months. The bus system is patented by Brenton, however he welcomes third party manufacturers to use his system under agreement, and will be making protel files available for this purpose. The plastic connection bricks will be available at a reasonable price from him. At this stage, Dontronics looks like being involved in the sales, however the product is not available as yet. The doc file explains the most basic questions you may have. We welcome feedback on this product. URL's below: Thanks Don... ============================================= http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/microbric_information.doc http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/battle_robot.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/brics_x_2.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/demo.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/dtmf_radio_controller.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot_close_up.jpg http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot_standing.jpg -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From support2004 at dontronics.com Sat Feb 7 16:49:15 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Feb 7 16:49:39 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's Message-ID: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> Hi Gang, when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the owner of this list. Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told them. thanks Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From simmstick_list at whizkidzit.com Sun Feb 8 01:20:43 2004 From: simmstick_list at whizkidzit.com (Ingmar Meins) Date: Sun Feb 8 01:20:59 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's In-Reply-To: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> Hi Don, Maybe you could publish the source IP from the headers, that would allow the members to narrow it down. I received a couple from the BASCOM list so I've changed the email address that I use there. Totally off topic, for those members sitting around the fireplace, enjoying some snow etc..... At the moment it's 42.6C (109F) with 28km/h winds gusting to 37km/h here in sunny Griffith, New South Wales, Australia... That's at the airport which is usually a couple of degree lower than in town (due to asphalt roads, buildings etc), so let's call it 45C+ in town! Ingmar At 08:49 AM 8/02/2004, you wrote: >Hi Gang, > >when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via >names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I >know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your >address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the >owner of this list. > >Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting >somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. > >I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC >sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific >dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told >them. > >thanks Don... > > >-- >Don McKenzie >E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics > >USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html >Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php > > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From support2004 at dontronics.com Sun Feb 8 01:36:21 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sun Feb 8 01:36:36 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> Message-ID: <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> Ingmar Meins wrote: > > Hi Don, > > Maybe you could publish the source IP from the headers, that would allow > the members to narrow it down. I received a couple from the BASCOM list so > I've changed the email address that I use there. OK Ingmar, I don't know if it will do any good, as I couldn't see anything, but then, I'm not at expert. have added below: > Totally off topic, for those members sitting around the fireplace, enjoying > some snow etc..... At the moment it's 42.6C (109F) with 28km/h winds > gusting to 37km/h here in sunny Griffith, New South Wales, Australia... > That's at the airport which is usually a couple of degree lower than in > town (due to asphalt roads, buildings etc), so let's call it 45C+ in town! > > Ingmar we have a cool 39C here in Melbourne. can barely cook eggs on the bonnet of the car. anyone have comments on the Microbric product that I posted the other day? Don... =================================================== Notes ***** Have munged some addresses. helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com is all associated with my service provider in the US. =================================================== X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 0 X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 1 Return-Path: Received: from helene.affordablehost.com (helene.affordablehost.com [216.46.192.80]) by mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i17LZmB10691 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:35:49 +1100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=helene.affordablehost.com) by helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Apa77-0003wG-Ov; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:45 -0500 Received: from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Apa72-0007lw-NC for simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON dontronics.com; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:41 -0500 From: lars NOTE MUNGED BY DON lawicel.com To: simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON dontronics.com (This is the address I am getting the viruses on) Subject: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:35:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_47297966.F62853FC" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: Sender: helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com Errors-To: mailman-bounces@helene.affordablehost.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - helene.affordablehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - dontronics.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 1076189751.10736.mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au,S=32455 Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt Content-Type: plain/text; name="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" > > At 08:49 AM 8/02/2004, you wrote: > > >Hi Gang, > > > >when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via > >names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I > >know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your > >address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the > >owner of this list. > > > >Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting > >somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. > > > >I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC > >sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific > >dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told > >them. > > > >thanks Don... > > > > > >-- > >Don McKenzie > >E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics > > > >USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html > >Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SimmStick_Group mailing list > >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From alanh at jenal.com Sun Feb 8 02:09:57 2004 From: alanh at jenal.com (Alan Hackett) Date: Sun Feb 8 02:05:32 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's In-Reply-To: <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> Don It seems to be coming from the "LAWICEL" website or someone using an e-mail address on that site. Notice the line that starts: Received: from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by helene.affordablehost.com ^^^^^^^^^^^ How's the contact page going? I presume from comments that the spam has reduced considerably. Unfortunately it won't stop things like Mydoom that get remailed from a user's computer once your real address is in his address book. But at least it stops the "harvesting" by the spammers! Regards Alan Don McKenzie wrote: >Ingmar Meins wrote: > > >>Hi Don, >> >>Maybe you could publish the source IP from the headers, that would allow >>the members to narrow it down. I received a couple from the BASCOM list so >>I've changed the email address that I use there. >> >> > >OK Ingmar, I don't know if it will do any good, as I couldn't see >anything, but then, I'm not at expert. >have added below: > > > >>Totally off topic, for those members sitting around the fireplace, enjoying >>some snow etc..... At the moment it's 42.6C (109F) with 28km/h winds >>gusting to 37km/h here in sunny Griffith, New South Wales, Australia... >>That's at the airport which is usually a couple of degree lower than in >>town (due to asphalt roads, buildings etc), so let's call it 45C+ in town! >> >>Ingmar >> >> > >we have a cool 39C here in Melbourne. can barely cook eggs on the bonnet >of the car. > >anyone have comments on the Microbric product that I posted the other >day? > >Don... > > > > >=================================================== > >Notes ***** Have munged some addresses. > >helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com is all >associated with my service provider in the US. > >=================================================== > >X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: > 0 > X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: > 1 > Return-Path: > > > Received: > from helene.affordablehost.com >(helene.affordablehost.com [216.46.192.80]) by >mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au > (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i17LZmB10691 >for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 >08:35:49 > +1100 > Received: > from localhost ([127.0.0.1] >helo=helene.affordablehost.com) by helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp >(Exim 4.24) id > 1Apa77-0003wG-Ov; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:45 >-0500 > Received: > from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by >helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Apa72-0007lw-NC > for simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON >dontronics.com; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:41 -0500 > From: > lars NOTE MUNGED BY DON lawicel.com > To: > simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON >dontronics.com (This is the address I am getting the viruses on) > Subject: > Date: > Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:35:42 +0200 > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > Content-Type: > multipart/mixed; >boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_47297966.F62853FC" > X-Priority: > 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: > Normal > Message-ID: > > > Sender: > >helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com > Errors-To: > mailman-bounces@helene.affordablehost.com > X-AntiAbuse: > This header was added to track abuse, please >include it with any abuse report > X-AntiAbuse: > Primary Hostname - helene.affordablehost.com > X-AntiAbuse: > Original Domain - dontronics.com > X-AntiAbuse: > Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 >12] > X-AntiAbuse: > Sender Address Domain - >mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com > X-Mozilla-Status: > 8001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: > 00000000 > X-UIDL: > >1076189751.10736.mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au,S=32455 > > > Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt > > Content-Type: > plain/text; >name="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > base64 > Content-Disposition: > attachment; >filename="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" > > > > >>At 08:49 AM 8/02/2004, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Gang, >>> >>>when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via >>>names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I >>>know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your >>>address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the >>>owner of this list. >>> >>>Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting >>>somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. >>> >>>I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC >>>sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific >>>dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told >>>them. >>> >>>thanks Don... >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Don McKenzie >>>E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics >>> >>>USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html >>>Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SimmStick_Group mailing list >>>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >>>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>SimmStick_Group mailing list >>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com >> >> > > > > From leon_heller at hotmail.com Sun Feb 8 02:13:14 2004 From: leon_heller at hotmail.com (Leon Heller) Date: Sun Feb 8 02:13:20 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com><6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don McKenzie" To: "SimmStick Group" Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's > anyone have comments on the Microbric product that I posted the other > day? Looks as though it will be rather expensive. It might be useful for schools but I can't see anyone using it in higher education or for R&D. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Email: aqzf13@dsl.pipex.com My low-cost Philips LPC210x ARM development system: http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller/lpc2104.html From simmstick_list at whizkidzit.com Sun Feb 8 06:43:17 2004 From: simmstick_list at whizkidzit.com (Ingmar Meins) Date: Sun Feb 8 06:43:32 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's In-Reply-To: <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040208223803.01ca83e0@whizkidzit.com> At 06:09 PM 8/02/2004, you wrote: >Don > >It seems to be coming from the "LAWICEL" website or someone using an >e-mail address >on that site. Notice the line that starts: > >Received: from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by >helene.affordablehost.com ^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry not even close to winning the prize. The FAKE HELO command to the mail server says lawicel.com but the IP maps to :- inetnum: 81.212.0.0 - 81.215.255.255 netname: TR-TELEKOM-20021015 descr: Turk Telekom descr: PROVIDER LIR country: TR admin-c: TTBA1-RIPE tech-c: TTBA1-RIPE status: ALLOCATED PA mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: AS9121-MNT mnt-routes: AS9121-MNT notify: dnsadmin@turnet.net.tr changed: hostmaster@ripe.net 20021015 I.E. someone in Turkey on 81.214.20.77, that's the downfall of the SMTP system. I can use telnet to connect to an email system and manually say HELO ASIS.GOV.AU and you would think the Australian Secret Intelligence Service had sent an email but looking at the IP address in the mail server log would reveal it was really me (unless I was using IP spoofing). >Don McKenzie wrote: > >>Ingmar Meins wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Don, >>> >>>Maybe you could publish the source IP from the headers, that would allow >>>the members to narrow it down. I received a couple from the BASCOM list so >>>I've changed the email address that I use there. >>> >> >>OK Ingmar, I don't know if it will do any good, as I couldn't see >>anything, but then, I'm not at expert. >>have added below: >> >> >> >>>Totally off topic, for those members sitting around the fireplace, enjoying >>>some snow etc..... At the moment it's 42.6C (109F) with 28km/h winds >>>gusting to 37km/h here in sunny Griffith, New South Wales, Australia... >>>That's at the airport which is usually a couple of degree lower than in >>>town (due to asphalt roads, buildings etc), so let's call it 45C+ in town! >>> >>>Ingmar >>> >> >>we have a cool 39C here in Melbourne. can barely cook eggs on the bonnet >>of the car. >> >>anyone have comments on the Microbric product that I posted the other >>day? >> >>Don... >> >> >> >> >>=================================================== >> >>Notes ***** Have munged some addresses. >> >>helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com is all >>associated with my service provider in the US. >> >>=================================================== >> >>X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 0 >>X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 1 >> Return-Path: >> >> Received: from >> helene.affordablehost.com >>(helene.affordablehost.com [216.46.192.80]) by >>mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au >> (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i17LZmB10691 >>for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 >>08:35:49 >> +1100 >> Received: from localhost >> ([127.0.0.1] >>helo=helene.affordablehost.com) by helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp >>(Exim 4.24) id >> 1Apa77-0003wG-Ov; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:45 >>-0500 >> Received: from >> [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by >>helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Apa72-0007lw-NC >> for simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON >>dontronics.com; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:41 -0500 >> From: lars NOTE MUNGED >> BY DON lawicel.com >> To: >> simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON >>dontronics.com (This is the address I am getting the viruses on) >> Subject: Date: >> Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:35:42 +0200 >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >>boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_47297966.F62853FC" >> X-Priority: 3 >> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> Message-ID: >> >> Sender: >>helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com >> Errors-To: >> mailman-bounces@helene.affordablehost.com >> X-AntiAbuse: This header was >> added to track abuse, please >>include it with any abuse report >> X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname >> - helene.affordablehost.com >> X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - >> dontronics.com >> X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller >> UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 >>12] >> X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address >> Domain - >>mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com >> X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 >> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >> X-UIDL: >>1076189751.10736.mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au,S=32455 >> >> >> Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt >> >> Content-Type: >> plain/text; >>name="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: >> base64 >> Content-Disposition: >> attachment; >>filename="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" >> >> >> >>>At 08:49 AM 8/02/2004, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Gang, >>>> >>>>when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via >>>>names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I >>>>know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your >>>>address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the >>>>owner of this list. >>>> >>>>Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting >>>>somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. >>>> >>>>I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC >>>>sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific >>>>dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told >>>>them. >>>> >>>>thanks Don... >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Don McKenzie >>>>E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics >>>> >>>>USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html >>>>Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SimmStick_Group mailing list >>>>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >>>>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SimmStick_Group mailing list >>>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >>>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com >>> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >SimmStick_Group mailing list >SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com >http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From lars at lawicel.com Sun Feb 8 08:32:40 2004 From: lars at lawicel.com (Lars Wictorsson) Date: Sun Feb 8 08:34:55 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com><4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> Message-ID: <0c9001c3ee48$0ae2fd50$6a00a8c0@gollum> Hi, I can assure you that it isn't comming from us, however if my ISP that hosts the lawicel.com site has a free SMTP, then all can use that and shoot through there, but nothing I can stop or prevent from happening. These new SPAM's are so smart, that it uses domains that do excist for companies and change even the name in front of the @ sign. I have gotten many bounces back from people like linda@lawicel.com even though there is no peter here and I'm alone. But they make up random e-mail adresses from excisting ones. I would cut the balls out of a spammer if I cought him alive, that's for sure. Sorry for my languange, but I do get about 300+ SPAM's per day which Norton Anti Spam cleans about 90%, the rest I have to live with due to that lawicel.com has been arround since 1995 and then being "un-smart" not to use a diffrent e-mail adress in discussion lists and on the web, since if you search for lars@lawicel.com, you find many sites which it is on due to I'm participating in discussions, but back then 1995-2000 it wasn't a problem. Last 1-2 years has been terrible in acceleration in SPAM and I sure hope they can come up with a smart way of stopping it and closing official SMTP servers and those who even think of sending more than 1000 e-mails per day through their SMTP servers needs to verify that it isn't spam they are sending. I have here an article about the Spammer from US, that sends 10milj e-mails a day and if only 100 of them falls in the trap and buys something, he can live on that. The latest viruses has been very smart hijacking servers and sending spam from there, like probably is the case by the US company holding lawicel.com. I will eventually move this to a hosting in Sweden were this can't happen due to laws and SMTP servers being closed unless you first POP from your e-mail which verify that it is you and are allowed to use it. /Lars > It seems to be coming from the "LAWICEL" website or someone using an > e-mail address > on that site. Notice the line that starts: > > Received: from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by > helene.affordablehost.com ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > How's the contact page going? I presume from comments that the spam > has reduced considerably. Unfortunately it won't stop things like > Mydoom that get remailed from a user's computer once your real address > is in his address book. But at least it stops the "harvesting" by > the spammers! > > Regards > > Alan > > > > > > Don McKenzie wrote: > > >Ingmar Meins wrote: > > > > > >>Hi Don, > >> > >>Maybe you could publish the source IP from the headers, that would allow > >>the members to narrow it down. I received a couple from the BASCOM list so > >>I've changed the email address that I use there. > >> > >> > > > >OK Ingmar, I don't know if it will do any good, as I couldn't see > >anything, but then, I'm not at expert. > >have added below: > > > > > > > >>Totally off topic, for those members sitting around the fireplace, enjoying > >>some snow etc..... At the moment it's 42.6C (109F) with 28km/h winds > >>gusting to 37km/h here in sunny Griffith, New South Wales, Australia... > >>That's at the airport which is usually a couple of degree lower than in > >>town (due to asphalt roads, buildings etc), so let's call it 45C+ in town! > >> > >>Ingmar > >> > >> > > > >we have a cool 39C here in Melbourne. can barely cook eggs on the bonnet > >of the car. > > > >anyone have comments on the Microbric product that I posted the other > >day? > > > >Don... > > > > > > > > > >=================================================== > > > >Notes ***** Have munged some addresses. > > > >helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com is all > >associated with my service provider in the US. > > > >=================================================== > > > >X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: > > 0 > > X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: > > 1 > > Return-Path: > > > > > > Received: > > from helene.affordablehost.com > >(helene.affordablehost.com [216.46.192.80]) by > >mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au > > (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i17LZmB10691 > >for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 > >08:35:49 > > +1100 > > Received: > > from localhost ([127.0.0.1] > >helo=helene.affordablehost.com) by helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp > >(Exim 4.24) id > > 1Apa77-0003wG-Ov; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:45 > >-0500 > > Received: > > from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by > >helene.affordablehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Apa72-0007lw-NC > > for simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON > >dontronics.com; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:35:41 -0500 > > From: > > lars NOTE MUNGED BY DON lawicel.com > > To: > > simmstick_group-owner MUNGED BY DON > >dontronics.com (This is the address I am getting the viruses on) > > Subject: > > Date: > > Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:35:42 +0200 > > MIME-Version: > > 1.0 > > Content-Type: > > multipart/mixed; > >boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_47297966.F62853FC" > > X-Priority: > > 3 > > X-MSMail-Priority: > > Normal > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Sender: > > > >helene.affordablehost.com@mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com > > Errors-To: > > mailman-bounces@helene.affordablehost.com > > X-AntiAbuse: > > This header was added to track abuse, please > >include it with any abuse report > > X-AntiAbuse: > > Primary Hostname - helene.affordablehost.com > > X-AntiAbuse: > > Original Domain - dontronics.com > > X-AntiAbuse: > > Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 > >12] > > X-AntiAbuse: > > Sender Address Domain - > >mailman-bounces.affordablehost.com > > X-Mozilla-Status: > > 8001 > > X-Mozilla-Status2: > > 00000000 > > X-UIDL: > > > >1076189751.10736.mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au,S=32455 > > > > > > Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt > > > > Content-Type: > > plain/text; > >name="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: > > base64 > > Content-Disposition: > > attachment; > >filename="Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt" > > > > > > > > > >>At 08:49 AM 8/02/2004, you wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Gang, > >>> > >>>when I start getting the Mydoom virus sent to the owner of this list via > >>>names like Rod Egan, and Lars Wictorsson, that I have known for years, I > >>>know that one of you have the Mydoom virus on your machine, as your > >>>address book contains Rod and Lars's email addresses as well as the > >>>owner of this list. > >>> > >>>Could you all please check and make sure you haven't got a PC sitting > >>>somewhere on line pumping out emails with viruses attached. > >>> > >>>I managed to get my electronic fax service to shut down a notebook PC > >>>sending out viruses. I knew it was them, as I had only given a specific > >>>dontronics.com email address to them. They were very grateful I told > >>>them. > >>> > >>>thanks Don... > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Don McKenzie > >>>E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics > >>> > >>>USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html > >>>Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>SimmStick_Group mailing list > >>>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > >>>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>SimmStick_Group mailing list > >>SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > >>http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com From alxx at ihug.com.au Sun Feb 8 09:02:54 2004 From: alxx at ihug.com.au (Alex Gibson) Date: Sun Feb 8 09:01:20 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's In-Reply-To: <0c9001c3ee48$0ae2fd50$6a00a8c0@gollum> References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com><4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> <0c9001c3ee48$0ae2fd50$6a00a8c0@gollum> Message-ID: <4026418E.1040205@ihug.com.au> Trick is to use a different email for each company and email group you deal with. I'm still getting lots of your email could not be sent bounces even though I'm not sending them. A lot of the spams I'm getting have virus attachments. What annoys me is profiteering isps who charge for filtering your email and can't filter properly. Thats why I do it myself. Also switching to using my uni accounts as I get almost zero spam. Alex Lars Wictorsson wrote: > Hi, > > I can assure you that it isn't comming from us, however if my ISP > that hosts the lawicel.com site has a free SMTP, then all can use > that and shoot through there, but nothing I can stop or prevent > from happening. These new SPAM's are so smart, that it uses domains > that do excist for companies and change even the name in front of > the @ sign. I have gotten many bounces back from people like > linda@lawicel.com > even though there is no peter here and I'm alone. But they make > up random e-mail adresses from excisting ones. I would cut the balls > out of a spammer if I cought him alive, that's for sure. Sorry for > my languange, but I do get about 300+ SPAM's per day which Norton Anti Spam > cleans about 90%, the rest I have to live with due to that lawicel.com > has been arround since 1995 and then being "un-smart" not to use a diffrent > e-mail adress in discussion lists and on the web, since if you search > for lars@lawicel.com, you find many sites which it is on due to I'm > participating in discussions, but back then 1995-2000 it wasn't a problem. > Last 1-2 years has been terrible in acceleration in SPAM and I sure hope > they can come up with a smart way of stopping it and closing official > SMTP servers and those who even think of sending more than 1000 e-mails > per day through their SMTP servers needs to verify that it isn't spam > they are sending. I have here an article about the Spammer from US, that > sends 10milj e-mails a day and if only 100 of them falls in the trap and > buys something, he can live on that. The latest viruses has been very smart > hijacking servers and sending spam from there, like probably is the case > by the US company holding lawicel.com. I will eventually move this to a > hosting in Sweden were this can't happen due to laws and SMTP servers > being closed unless you first POP from your e-mail which verify that it > is you and are allowed to use it. > > /Lars > From lars at lawicel.com Sun Feb 8 09:33:52 2004 From: lars at lawicel.com (Lars Wictorsson) Date: Sun Feb 8 09:35:58 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Please check your PC's References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com><4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com><0c9001c3ee48$0ae2fd50$6a00a8c0@gollum> <4026418E.1040205@ihug.com.au> Message-ID: <0ca901c3ee50$9451a980$6a00a8c0@gollum> Hi, > Trick is to use a different email for each company and > email group you deal with. Yes, for sure. But as I wrote, who thought of that in 1995 when there was no such thing as SPAM ;-) > I'm still getting lots of > your email could not be sent bounces even though I'm not > sending them. Yes, me to. Rod also pinted this out to Don: >Don, >81.214.20.77 is a dsl account somewhere in turkey >bit warmer than where Lars is :-) >Rod So, it wasn't even sent trough my server, just used my domain. Wonder if Police or someone else will visit cause of I sold something illegal due to that someone is using and putting my domain under black list. I mean they can try to sell anything unlegal such as narcotic, child porn etc. That worries me a lot! /Lars From radsett at attcanada.ca Sun Feb 8 09:56:46 2004 From: radsett at attcanada.ca (Robert Adsett) Date: Sun Feb 8 09:56:50 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040208095608.01efc0c0@inbox.allstream.net> Hmm, I'd sent this earlier. I just realized it didn't get through. Looks like I sent it via the wrong address. Curious, the immediate questions that pop to mind though are how much power do the power connections carry? and how does the single wire serial communications work? Robert From support2004 at dontronics.com Sun Feb 8 14:27:51 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:28:01 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040208095608.01efc0c0@inbox.allstream.net> Message-ID: <40268DB7.92F02D01@dontronics.com> Robert Adsett wrote: > > Hmm, I'd sent this earlier. I just realized it didn't get through. Looks > like I sent it via the wrong address. > > Curious, the immediate questions that pop to mind though are how much power > do the power connections carry? and how does the single wire serial > communications work? > > Robert Brenton has just joined this group, so I'm sure he will be able to answer all questions shortly. It's 06:00 where he is right now. :-) Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From lars at lawicel.com Sun Feb 8 14:46:45 2004 From: lars at lawicel.com (Lars Wictorsson) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:48:52 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040208095608.01efc0c0@inbox.allstream.net> <40268DB7.92F02D01@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <0d1f01c3ee7c$49bdb270$6a00a8c0@gollum> Hi, > > Curious, the immediate questions that pop to mind though are how much power > > do the power connections carry? and how does the single wire serial > > communications work? This is also one of my questions and how fast it is. If it is fast, it will defentilvly not pass any CE tests and regulations for that here in Europe, since all screws will work as antennas and is contact safe, i.e. screws tend to loosen specially if it is screwed to solder, since it moves and floats, thus it gets loose automatically after a while. For me, I rather prefer connectors and have signals in them. What type of market is it aimed for? (hobby, education etc.) What happens if one puts the PCB up side down in one section. i.e. +5VDC and 0VDC changes places or is there any way of not doing this. i.e. safety. Lego has a similar system where it sends signals and power in the bricks and there is no way of connecting it wrong. I do not want to sound negative, it's just what I first feel about things. I was same kind of "negative" when I saw SimmStick first time and didn't get the aha feeling until I had used them for a year or so. The robots look fun though which my kids for sure would love to play with The site http://www.microbric.com/ doesn't seem to excist yet either (saw the url on the robots). /Lars From support2004 at dontronics.com Sun Feb 8 14:51:09 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sun Feb 8 14:51:19 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] A Turkey ISP "Turk Telekom" References: <40255D5B.11B7FD1D@dontronics.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040208171258.01cfd988@whizkidzit.com> <4025D8E5.307B6C78@dontronics.com> <4025E0C5.3050209@jenal.com> Message-ID: <4026932D.8A5C53A2@dontronics.com> Alan Hackett wrote: > > Don > > It seems to be coming from the "LAWICEL" website or someone using an > e-mail address > on that site. Notice the line that starts: > > Received: from [81.214.20.77] (helo=lawicel.com) by > helene.affordablehost.com ^^^^^^^^^^^ Hi Alan, I'm afraid I will have to go with Rod and Ingmar on this one. I was setting up a filter to get rid of the problem, when I noticed a message from Rod was auto deleted, so I removed the filter, then a message from Lars came through. Rod answered my request pretty quickly and said he didn't send a message. Both these messages contained the MD virus, and as I have known and worked with both Rod and Lars since this internet thing started pretty much, I knew the messages didn't come from them. I got another two this morning from other senders, but I deleted them before reading my mail. I wish I had have checked the headers first. I will next time. Do we have a member who is using "Turk Telekom"? Please contact me privately and we will address a problem you may have. > How's the contact page going? I presume from comments that the spam > has reduced considerably. yes, virtually zero these days. Let's say I haven't seen one since last year. Not a long time ago, and I am expecting my first soon. then this MD virus started creeping through. got two via my electronic fax service, which we found the problem and fixed, now I have had about 8 to 10 via the owner address of this list. I go to great trouble to weed all of these problems out, I just wonder how some other businesses are coping. I guess they get guzillions of spam and viruses. Unfortunately it won't stop things like > Mydoom that get remailed from a user's computer once your real address > is in his address book. But at least it stops the "harvesting" by > the spammers! > Regards > Alan MD seems to get past everything. It must be costing a lot of people a lot of money. I am only sorting out possibly a total of only 12 emails. Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From bobby3d at bigpond.com Sun Feb 8 19:27:09 2004 From: bobby3d at bigpond.com (Bobby3d) Date: Sun Feb 8 19:29:05 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric In-Reply-To: <0d1f01c3ee7c$49bdb270$6a00a8c0@gollum> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for your valuable feed back. > > Curious, the immediate questions that pop to mind though are how muchpower > > do the power connections carry? and how does the single wire serial > > communications work? The screw connections will carry in excess of 1 amp, but the limitations exist in the tracks that lead to the connections, which vary from module to module. With regards to the single wire communication I'm not sure if you mean with the RS485 network example or the single data connection on each Microbric edge. The RS485 networking modules (nodes) are still in development, so a protocol has not been determined as yet. But basically each node module will have a settable 8 bit address and can be configured as an output, input, ADC etc. The single data connection on each Microbric edge is wired back to the microcontroller, so it is under software control (basic, assembly, C etc). So you would program the pin according to the type of module that it is connected to. Modules such as Relays, LEDs, Basic Motor Controllers etc simply require high or low states to control, but there are other modules that are operated via standard RS232 serial protocol at 9600 baud such as the DTMF module. >This is also one of my questions and how fast it is. If it is fast, it will >defentilvly not pass any CE tests and regulations for that here in Europe, >since all screws will work as antennas and is contact safe, i.e. screws tend >to loosen specially if it is screwed to solder, since it moves and floats, >thus it gets loose automatically after a while. Passing C-Tick and CE should not be an issue as the advice that I have received so far is that prototyping equipment is exempt from these standards (still waiting on FCC), as Microbric is not designed for mass production in products. The contacts are flash gold plated over nickel on copper tracks, so there is no solder under any of the screws. All tests with the screw contacts have proven to be very good and have survived temperature variations intact. >What type of market is it aimed for? (hobby, education etc.) The target market is educational, hobbyist and engineering (prototyping/proof of concept). Understandably Microbric will not appeal to all engineers or for all engineering jobs, but it offers a quick way of building presentable electronic devices in a prototyping environment. It can also be used for simple one of installations where customers want fast turn around times and a presentable product. >What happens if one puts the PCB up side down in one section. i.e. +5VDC >and 0VDC changes places or is there any way of not doing this. i.e. safety. There are two types of polarity protection 1. The plastic bric is 'keyed' so that you cannot get the polarity wrong 2. When using the stacking method the 'key' protection no longer protects, so polarity sensitive modules have a diode connected across the rails and all power supply modules are fused. The fuse blows if a reverse polarity condition exists preventing damage. >I do not want to sound negative, it's just what I first feel about things. >I was same kind of "negative" when I saw SimmStick first time and didn't >get the aha feeling until I had used them for a year or so. The pictures do not do Microbric justice from my presentations that I've done thus far the initial 'aha' feeling comes to people when they see the modules start locking together. >The site http://www.microbric.com/ doesn't seem to excist yet either >(saw the url on the robots). www.microbric.com has been registered but the web site is yet to be finalised. Regards, Brenton From rob at usbmicro.com Sun Feb 8 19:42:53 2004 From: rob at usbmicro.com (Rob) Date: Sun Feb 8 19:42:23 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric In-Reply-To: References: <0d1f01c3ee7c$49bdb270$6a00a8c0@gollum> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040208184009.0233ab18@pop3.usbmicro.com> Brenton, >The RS485 networking modules (nodes) are still in development, so a >protocol has not been determined as yet. But basically each node module will >have a settable 8 bit address and can be configured as an output, input, ADC >etc. Might I suggest S.N.A.P.? (www.HTH.com/snap/) -Rob www.usbmicro.com From l.blakeley at cfa.vic.gov.au Sun Feb 8 22:23:22 2004 From: l.blakeley at cfa.vic.gov.au (Leon Blakeley) Date: Sun Feb 8 22:19:06 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric In-Reply-To: <40233E9C.A762D41E@dontronics.com> References: <40233E9C.A762D41E@dontronics.com> Message-ID: <4026FD2A.7090609@cfa.vic.gov.au> Hi Don, I looked at the info, there was mention of a "tank level monitor", any more info on that? I need one!! Cheers Don McKenzie wrote: > Hi Gang, > > Here is a new concept of modular micro/peripheral construction that > should be of interest to the members of this group. > > It is the brainchild of Brenton O'Brien of Adelaide South Australia, who > has been developing the system over the last 3 years. This became a full > time job for him during the last 12 months. > > The bus system is patented by Brenton, however he welcomes third party > manufacturers to use his system under agreement, and will be making > protel > files available for this purpose. The plastic connection bricks will be > available at a reasonable price from him. > > At this stage, Dontronics looks like being involved in the sales, > however the product is not available as yet. > > The doc file explains the most basic questions you may have. > > We welcome feedback on this product. > > URL's below: > > Thanks Don... > > ============================================= > > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/microbric_information.doc > > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/battle_robot.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/brics_x_2.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/demo.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/dtmf_radio_controller.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot_close_up.jpg > http://www.dontronics.com/microbric/robot_standing.jpg > -- CAUTION - This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited and that you must not take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please notify CFA immediately and destroy the original message. From bobby3d at bigpond.com Mon Feb 9 17:41:21 2004 From: bobby3d at bigpond.com (Bobby3d) Date: Mon Feb 9 17:43:19 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric Message-ID: >Hi Don, >I looked at the info, there was mention of a "tank level monitor", any >more info on that? >I need one!! >Cheers Sorry the design is a portable example (demo) of a real life application of Microbric, so there are just a couple of pots to simulate the depth measurement. Regards, Brenton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://helene.affordablehost.com/pipermail/simmstick_group_dontronics.com/attachments/20040210/690db6da/attachment.htm From paul.munday at au.abb.com Mon Feb 9 18:28:46 2004 From: paul.munday at au.abb.com (paul.munday@au.abb.com) Date: Mon Feb 9 18:24:05 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Tank Level Message-ID: Hi Leon, We setup a tank monitoring system at our manufacturing plant using Banner ultra sonic transducers. They are expensive, but the best way to determine tank levels in a non-contact way (Especially good for hazardous materials) Paul. Message from Leon Blakeley @dontronics.com received on 09/02/2004 01:23 PM 09/02/2004 01:23 PM Leon Blakeley @dontronics.com Please respond to SimmStick Group Sent by SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com To: SimmStick Group cc: Subject: Re: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric Hi Don, I looked at the info, there was mention of a "tank level monitor", any more info on that? I need one!! Cheers From l.blakeley at cfa.vic.gov.au Mon Feb 9 19:07:48 2004 From: l.blakeley at cfa.vic.gov.au (Leon Blakeley) Date: Mon Feb 9 19:03:34 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Tank Level In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402820D4.9010706@cfa.vic.gov.au> Thanks Paul, My tanks are deeper than my pockets!! I've toyed with the idea of using PC rodents and floats to detect level changes, Making the whole thing reliable and weatherproof seemed a bit hard, optical versions add a whole new set of possibilities though!! Has anyone got a simmstick that understands mouse talk?? Cheers Leon paul.munday@au.abb.com wrote: > Hi Leon, > We setup a tank monitoring system at our manufacturing plant using > Banner ultra sonic transducers. They are expensive, but the best way to > determine tank levels in a non-contact way (Especially good for hazardous > materials) > > Paul. > > > Message from Leon Blakeley @dontronics.com > received on 09/02/2004 01:23 PM > > 09/02/2004 01:23 PM > > > > Leon Blakeley @dontronics.com > > Please respond to SimmStick Group > Sent by SimmStick_Group-bounces@dontronics.com > > > > To: SimmStick Group > cc: > Subject: Re: [SimmStick_Group] Microbric > > > Hi Don, > I looked at the info, there was mention of a "tank level monitor", any > more info on that? > I need one!! > Cheers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > -- Today is the first day of the rest of your life! CAUTION - This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited and that you must not take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please notify CFA immediately and destroy the original message. From support2004 at dontronics.com Thu Feb 12 16:30:39 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Thu Feb 12 16:30:56 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] ChipBlasterAVR Universal In-System Programming software. Message-ID: <402BF07F.11AA116A@dontronics.com> Universal In-System AVR Chip Programming software, compatible with the Atmel STK500/STK501/STK502/AVRISP, Atmel AVR910 application note, Kanda Systems STK200+ and STK300 development boards, Vogel Elektronic VTEC-ISP, Dontronics DT006, Tietomyrsky EXB2313, 4Ahead AVR Board 1and Futurlec JR-AVR AT90S2313 and AT90S8535 boards. http://www.dontronics.com/chipblaster.html -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From support2004 at dontronics.com Fri Feb 27 00:54:17 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Fri Feb 27 00:54:26 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] eLabtronics ChoreChart Message-ID: <403EDB89.A306D75C@dontronics.com> 27-Feb-2004 eLabtronics ChoreChart is an icon-based development tool for the programming of PIC microcontrollers. By grouping machine text language into icon graphics, it simplifies and reduces the error involved in what is otherwise a highly complex task, without compromising machine speed or efficiency. http://www.dontronics.com/elabtronics.html -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From alxx at ihug.com.au Fri Feb 27 01:00:14 2004 From: alxx at ihug.com.au (alxx@ihug.com.au) Date: Fri Feb 27 01:00:15 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] eLabtronics ChoreChart Message-ID: Their software is quite good. Especially for beginners but don't buy any of their circuit boards they are pieces of crap. Single layer boards which need to have tracks cut wirelinks installed for them to be used. Not good for beginners. Evaluated a couple of their boards for a friend who is a teacher last year. Alex > 27-Feb-2004 > eLabtronics ChoreChart is an icon-based development tool for the > programming of PIC microcontrollers. > > By grouping machine text language into icon graphics, it simplifies and > reduces the error involved in what is otherwise a highly complex task, > without compromising machine speed or efficiency. > > http://www.dontronics.com/elabtronics.html > > > -- > Don McKenzie > E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics > > USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html > Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php > > > _______________________________________________ > SimmStick_Group mailing list > SimmStick_Group@dontronics.com > http://dontronics.com/mailman/listinfo/simmstick_group_dontronics.com > From support2004 at dontronics.com Fri Feb 27 01:26:10 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Fri Feb 27 01:26:19 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] eLabtronics ChoreChart References: Message-ID: <403EE302.63F2C762@dontronics.com> alxx@ihug.com.au wrote: > > Their software is quite good. > Especially for beginners but don't buy any of their circuit boards > they are pieces of crap. > > Single layer boards which need to have tracks cut > wirelinks installed for them to be used. > Not good for beginners. > > Evaluated a couple of their boards for > a friend who is a teacher last year. > > Alex I had a bit of a laugh when you said that Alex. I was selling their PCB gear about 12 months ago, but we had bad communication problems, and I dropped them, as I do when suppliers don't perform to my standards. Miro, the head technical honcho, is actually a nice guy, as when he approached me on this deal, I had a look at the product, and local awards that they had scored, and decided to give them a go with this software. I have done this with two companies in the past, and both performed much better the second time around. Don... PS, if you are reading this Miroslav, this was just a private conversation between myself and Alex. :-) -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html Don's Free Guide To Spam Reduction http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php From alxx at ihug.com.au Fri Feb 27 02:10:53 2004 From: alxx at ihug.com.au (alxx@ihug.com.au) Date: Fri Feb 27 02:10:54 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] eLabtronics ChoreChart Message-ID: I gave them quite a bit of feedback when I bought the kits. Had missing parts in one. They were okay with "support". In this day and age single sided boards with wire links and having to cut tracks is poor design. Double sided boards don't cost that much and can easily be designed to be forgiving for beginners soldering. Can always design the circuit to use switches to turn parts of the circuit on and off via buffers. Only costs a few cents more and makes the boards a lot more flexible. That is what we are doing for the uni subject I tutor and do lab support for. Alex > I had a bit of a laugh when you said that Alex. > > I was selling their PCB gear about 12 months ago, but we had bad > communication problems, and I dropped them, as I do when suppliers don't > perform to my standards. > > Miro, the head technical honcho, is actually a nice guy, as when he > approached me on this deal, I had a look at the product, and local > awards that they had scored, and decided to give them a go with this > software. > > I have done this with two companies in the past, and both performed much > better the second time around. > > Don... > > PS, if you are reading this Miroslav, this was just a private > conversation between myself and Alex. :-)