From support2004 at dontronics.com Sat Oct 2 16:39:55 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 2 16:40:02 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Newbie Questions - Is SymmStick the "Way to Go?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415F121B.5050707@dontronics.com> phill.glasson@ap.effem.com wrote: > Hi People, > I'm *very* new to the list, microcontrollers, assembler, and C, > but a bit familiar with BASIC > Here's the background- big snip--- > (http://www.glasson.org), and am the System Administrator for 40 UNIX > machines with 3000 users. > > In anticipation, Hi Phill, I thought if I leave this one go for a few days, someone will dive in and give you some good answers, however it may well be that you covered so much ground, that the members have shyed away from it. Suggest you drop it basically as is onto the comp.arch.embedded newsgroup. I'll bet you will get a heap of responses there. Good luck. Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics Free phone calls via USB Phone: http://www.dontronics.com/usbphone.html USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html From tomsracing at web.de Sat Oct 2 08:27:45 2004 From: tomsracing at web.de (Tom Schoettle) Date: Sun Oct 3 08:27:47 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Newbie Questions - Is SymmStick the "Way to Go?" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Phill, you have set yourself a BIG goal. Have a look at what has been done: http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ All the best, Tom On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:31:07 +1100, phill.glasson@ap.effem.com wrote: >Hi People, > I'm *very* new to the list, microcontrollers, assembler, and C, >but a bit familiar with BASIC From rmoline at ieee.org Sun Oct 3 10:45:59 2004 From: rmoline at ieee.org (Rob Moline) Date: Sun Oct 3 10:45:30 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Newbie Questions - Is SymmStick the "Way to Go?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20041003221941.027939f0@pop-server.bigpond.net.au> Got to agree with Tom, looks like man-years of work hardware, programming, testing, debugging. Serial GPS is almost trivial in the overall context. Read somewhere that software is 10 times more labour-intensive and expensive than hardware, which matches my experiences on past projects. Which micro to use? No difference, they can all handle it without a problem, PIC, Atmel, any other. Choose the one you feel most comfortable with, and that you can get good development software/compilers for. For me, that's a PIC and a C compiler: whoever wrote C thinks like I do, I'm more comfortable with RISC than CISC micros (control freak?), and chose PIC almost at random. Other options for programming ease include mini-sized wintel boards, have seen one about 100 mm x 100 mm - no shortage of cheap and easy BASIC programs for wintel. I'll look up where it came from, if you wish, just needs a 5 V supply. Or maybe 12 V also. Though if you're like me concepts such as reliable, autonomous, etc are incompatible with concepts such as windows, blue screen of death etc. The one I saw was on a fibre-optic gyroscope which claimed 25,000 hours Mean Time Between Failures - ho ho ho, we were lucky if it worked 25 minutes before crashing. Good luck, Rob At 08:27 PM 2/10/2004, you wrote: >Hi Phill, > >you have set yourself a BIG goal. Have a look at what has been done: > >http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ > >All the best, > >Tom >On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:31:07 +1100, phill.glasson@ap.effem.com wrote: > > >Hi People, > > I'm *very* new to the list, microcontrollers, assembler, and C, > >but a bit familiar with BASIC From phill.glasson at ap.effem.com Sun Oct 3 19:40:03 2004 From: phill.glasson at ap.effem.com (phill.glasson@ap.effem.com) Date: Sun Oct 3 19:40:10 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Newbie Questions - Is SymmStick the "Way to Go?" In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20041003221941.027939f0@pop-server.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks for your direction Don, Tom and Rob. I'll do a little more research and see what can be turned up. Phill > Good luck, > Rob > >All the best, > > > >Tom >Good luck. > >Cheers Don... From SPennington at questacon.edu.au Wed Oct 13 23:08:59 2004 From: SPennington at questacon.edu.au (Simon Pennington) Date: Wed Oct 13 23:09:05 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Debugger Interfacing Message-ID: Hi all I'm fairly new to PICs, I have some experience with Motorola's 68 processors and some programming experience in a variety of languages. I'm having trouble debugging code I have developed in CCS for the 16F877. I have been unable to interface the (DT001 simm stick development board) or (KIT149 Version C USB PIC programmer) to run with CCS or MPLab's debugging environments. What do I need to do to operate the Debugger?? Can I simulate the pic on the PC to step through the code?? Any Advice gratefully received. 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URL: /pipermail/simmstick_group_dontronics.com/attachments/20041014/75650c17/attachment.htm From support2004 at dontronics.com Sat Oct 16 16:49:29 2004 From: support2004 at dontronics.com (Don McKenzie) Date: Sat Oct 16 16:49:32 2004 Subject: [SimmStick_Group] Debugger Interfacing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41718959.3050809@dontronics.com> Simon Pennington wrote: > Hi all > > I'm fairly new to PICs, > I have some experience with Motorola's 68 processors and some > programming experience in a variety of languages. > I'm having trouble debugging code I have developed in CCS for the 16F877. > > I have been unable to interface the (DT001 simm stick development board) > or (KIT149 Version C USB PIC programmer) to run with CCS or MPLab's > debugging environments. > > What do I need to do to operate the Debugger?? > > Can I simulate the pic on the PC to step through the code?? > > Any Advice gratefully received. Hi Simon, I had left this message go for a few days in the hope that someone may be able to give you some direct assistance, as I don't know the answer. I can suggest two things. Join the piclist or get onto the CCS chat group. http://www.piclist.com http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/ all these groups are listed at: http://www.dontronics.com/chat.html good luck with it. Cheers Don... -- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics Free phone calls via USB Phone: http://www.dontronics.com/usbphone.html USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html